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696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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2-Skinny
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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May 02, 2011, 09:10:35 AM »
Glad you're pleased! Post pictures and feedback on your install.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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May 02, 2011, 01:32:55 PM »
Got the bracket, love it
looking to take out air box and fit a ballistic battery this should cut about 10-12 pounds off the bike
now since i still have my canisters were do i put my coils?
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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Quote from: jfgducat on May 02, 2011, 01:32:55 PM
Got the bracket, love it
looking to take out air box and fit a ballistic battery this should cut about 10-12 pounds off the bike
now since i still have my canisters were do i put my coils?
The vertical coil stays on it's old bracket.
The horizontal coil can ziptie to the frame cross member.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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Quote from: jfgducat on May 02, 2011, 01:32:55 PM
Got the bracket, love it
looking to take out air box and fit a ballistic battery this should cut about 10-12 pounds off the bike
now since i still have my canisters were do i put my coils?
Do you mean charcoal canister...?
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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May 03, 2011, 02:58:50 PM »
Starting fitting the bracket last night. The fit seems to be very "general". This is not a review, just my observations as I go along. I have been a fan of this project since I saw it. That being said I am ready for generation 2.
Already had to drill out 1 hole for mounting. This is not a big deal, just a hassle.
Second mounting hole for battery not lining up. Is it not meant to be used?
I wasn't sure since the second hole couldn't fit a bolt either.
If I zip tie the solenoid, I can't mount this these relays the way they were. I might be able to flip them around 90 degress. I think the next revision should try to address this. Also, get rid of the zip tie thing and put the prongs back on there. I am anti-zip tie unless used for wire tidyness.
Just need to get my spacers together and will post my setup when I am done. Probably be a little bit since I am busy this week.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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As far as drilling out the holes, what hardware are you using? The stock Hardware might not always work. I secured everything without drilling anyhing. I used spare bolts/nuts that I had and everything mounted up perfectly, securely, and fit good.
As far as the left battery tray hole, we did mess that up. It was supposed to line up and it was slightly off. I used a zip tie on this side to secure the tray to the bracket, along with the pcv filter. I used a nut/bolt on right side, and did not drill out the hole. drilling out the hole would be better, but it was plenty secure how I set it up.
As far as the solenoid, I did not have to flip anything. It should be in same potion it would be if the airbox was in place. The only thing i noticed that had to be adjusted was the positive battery terminal. Other than that, everything should fit where it was stock.
If you have any questions PM me... But this was our first run, and there are always improvements to be made
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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I used the stock bolts for mounting. The right side mount will not bolt up if you change the bolt size. It's threaded on the bike, not an open hole. Drilling the hole one size larger wasn't a big deal, to be honest it could have been the thickness of the powdercoat that did it. The bracket fits securely, but not perfectly.
The solenoid was fine. It's the relays in the center of the picture that get displaced from the brass nut on the battery box. Putting the solenoid so close to the battery box moves the relay's mounting hole towards the rear or down in the picture.
I understand this is a first run, that is why I didn't come on here all hellfire and brimstone. I am very appreciative of the effort you guys put forth. Any criticism should be taken constructively so that we all may benefit from future endeavors that seek to improve upon the foundation you guys have laid down. I pointed out this stuff so the next guy doesn't have to wonder if he's crazy or got a bad bracket.
No one has done a single thing to come up with a resolution for the airbox removal...except you two.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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Thanks for the input Tywash. We realized only after production that that battery holder bolt hole was off, our appologies- but like you discovered drilling another hole or using a zip tie will work depending on what you are comfortable with.
Trust, if we do another production run those issue will be fixed...
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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Quote from: Tywash on May 03, 2011, 04:02:56 PM
No one has done a single thing to come up with a resolution for the airbox removal...except you two.
The OPs have done a great job of making this happen and all credit to 'em for that
. But its not true to say that they're the only ones, WASP had a M696/M1100 kit out long ago.
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Agreed.
We were the only one to attempt to make something available more quickly.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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Quote from: 2-Skinny on May 04, 2011, 08:30:18 AM
Agreed.
We were the only one to attempt to make something available more quickly.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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Quote from: 2-Skinny on May 04, 2011, 08:30:18 AM
Agreed.
We were the only one to attempt to make something available more quickly.
AND much more cheaply.
Well done guys!
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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Well done guys, I hope it all works out for you and the end users. it looks like you are getting there.. A bit of messing around and filing/drilling etc for the end users but a good way for the frugal to save a few dollars.
If nothing else I am sure now the two instigators will have a new found appreciation of the scale of work involved in getting something like this together with one bracket, let alone the front bracket for the coil or a complete plug and play kit..
As you know, WaspWorks is up and running with FULL "Plug & Play" kits for these machines now (including M+Hyp EVO and 796) and is the only real alternative for those without the mechanical aptitude or the spare time to run around sourcing all the huge amount of components required to do this job with an OEM fit and finish.
Quote from: Veloce-Fino on May 04, 2011, 11:46:56 AM
AND much more cheaply.
Well done guys!
That is debatable...
At the end of the day I think a lot of people that attempt this job would be surprised at the total cost by the time they include all components/service like:
PC5 with O2 emulators, Stainless steel hardware, an actual front coil mount bracket rather than simply zip tying coils in space, Correctly/flow simulated and dyno tested designed oversize intake manifolds (considerably larger than anyone else supplies), oversize K&N filters (considerably larger than anyone else supplies), pre filter socks, etc.
This is without even thinking about any run around time sourcing any/all of these parts.
So no, I dont think it is "AND much more cheaply"
Greg.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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May 04, 2011, 12:44:06 PM »
btw all those looking for a second ECU to use.. there's one on ebay right now. starting at 52
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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Quote from: Wasp on May 04, 2011, 12:32:15 PM
Well done guys, I hope it all works out for you and the end users. it looks like you are getting there.. A bit of messing around and filing/drilling etc for the end users but a good way for the frugal to save a few dollars.
If nothing else I am sure now the two instigators will have a new found appreciation of the scale of work involved in getting something like this together with one bracket, let alone the front bracket for the coil or a complete plug and play kit..
As you know, WaspWorks is up and running with FULL "Plug & Play" kits for these machines now (including M+Hyp EVO and 796) and is the only real alternative for those without the mechanical aptitude or the spare time to run around sourcing all the huge amount of components required to do this job with an OEM fit and finish.
That is debatable...
At the end of the day I think a lot of people that attempt this job would be surprised at the total cost by the time they include all components/service like:
PC5 with O2 emulators, Stainless steel hardware, an actual front coil mount bracket rather than simply zip tying coils in space, Correctly/flow simulated and dyno tested designed oversize intake manifolds (considerably larger than anyone else supplies), oversize K&N filters (considerably larger than anyone else supplies), pre filter socks, etc.
This is without even thinking about any run around time sourcing any/all of these parts.
So no, I dont think it is "AND much more cheaply"
Greg.
Quote from: Veloce-Fino on May 04, 2011, 11:46:56 AM
AND much more cheaply.
Well done guys!
WASP- Thank you for the kind words/truths.
This was never meant to be equivalent to any "professional" kit, certainly not as nice as WaspWorks was/is. This was a "stop gap" option for people interested in assembling a kit to run open filters/ecu options on their own. We expressed that Waspworks kit was cream of the crop, we also acknowledged that this bracket only gave the end user the option to install how they want (assembling whatever hardware was needed included).
As two amateurs with limited experience (and definitely limited funds) we did our best to offer a clean/useful product for those interested. We realize its not 100% perfect, had we taken more time/money to have an additional couple prototypes made it would have been, but that wasn't an option here. I think all who purchased one had the understanding that it would be a DIY install- and that is part of the fun!
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