Motorcycle check points

[He Man]

That's true and in turn, I'd say that after perusing the link, I just found myself a little confused about the relevance of a policy that targets motorcyclists.

money. A lot of squids in this area. A lot of them either dont have motorcycle license or only have a permit (fine + impound), if you dont have documents on you, which a lot of squids do not have (fine + impound). And if you have a single thing wrong (they will walk around your bike looking for things to give you tickets for) they will write you up for up to 3 tickets at a time. They will give you a ticket for something that isnt even illegal because most people will not take the time to fight it.

Its all about money money money, and targeting bikes is easy because chances are you are going to come up with something.

Litterally.... No right hand mirror, no windscreen, no fairing, no fender, visor flipped up....IN TRAFFIC (even if u are wearing these mysterious non existent DOT approved googles). etc the lit goes on.


money money money money money

[GLantern]

That's true and in turn, I'd say that after perusing the link, I just found myself a little confused about the relevance of a policy that targets motorcyclists. I didn't have the time to dig into the finer points and since we have nothing like that here in AZ, it just confused me and left me wondering what the point was of it.

I agree that I have no problem being pulled over for a legitimate reason, but to purposely and specifically target a motorcyclist and not other vehicles at the same time is vehicular discrimination. ...something that I think many people around here would be (literally) up in arms about.

As HeMan quoted they do it for the money I wish they didn't but they do.  And that is what we are trying to fight here.  Thank you for clearing up your stance.  As I understand now you didn't see the point in motorcycle only checkpoints and that was all.  I thought you didn't see the point in protesting against them at first.

[Statler]

I don't believe a manned checkpoint for motorcycle-only stops would be a money maker.    Please back up that one with some references.

[Howie]

I don't believe a manned checkpoint for motorcycle-only stops would be a money maker.    Please back up that one with some references.

If the agency had to pay for the stops I think you are correct, but if Federal money pays for it the profit margin changes.   NYC's checks profitable?  I don't know, but less man power and equipement is used.  Many of the check points are coming off a bridge into traffic so a big corral area and chase vehicles are not needed.  

I doubt the county of Schenectady could finance the overtime, chase vehicles and aircraft used in these check points with the money earned
from the tickets issued.  NYC's checks profitable?  I don't know, but less man power and equipement is used.  Many of the check points are coming off a bridge into traffic so a big corral area and chase vehicles are not needed. 

I don't know how much the State check point cost to finance, but, according to Strickland from NHTSA at one check point 225 motorcycles were inspected.  Allegedly 11% had unsafe tires, 1% illegal handebars and 36% of the riders were not wearing helmets meeting New York State regulations.  I would have to the law suit info to confirm, but 70 pages of legal brief and 2 CDs of exhibit is a lot of stuff for a non lawer like me to try and go through without pulling my hair out.

[Monster Dave]

Thank you for clearing up your stance. 

Sure, no problem! 

[herm]

done!

[lifeinohio]

I did it!

[Nel of Bklyn]

I "signed" also.

[Bladecutter]

The profit point for NYC is the fees they get to charge for license, registration, and insurance violations, charges for towing and impounding a motorcycle, releasing the motorcycle from impound, and if you don't come for you bike soon enough, they then auction off you bikes at the Brooklyn lot every other Monday.

I bought my Hawk GT from the Brooklyn lot back in '03 before they started doing the BS checkpoint crap. They started the checkpoint bs in '06, as I remember being on my way to work one morning, passing a biker that was pulled over on Thompson Avenue in Queens, thinking to myself "That's an odd place to pull over a biker", then next thing I know, there are sirens going off behind me.

I pulled over, again in a not very safe spot, had the officer come over and ask for my papers, I handed them over, and asked him what I did. He said I didn't do anything, but he has to check my paper work since I'm riding a bike, and he walked over to his car for several minutes. When he came back, and handed my stuff back to me, he said I'm good to go. I asked him "Why did you pull me over for if I didn't do anything?" His reply was along the lines of they are planning on cracking down on bikers in the city without all their info, and he indicated that under no circumstances should I ever ride without it, anywhere in the 5 Boroughs from now on if I wanted to get where I was going to that day.

It seems that some people are reporting that they have decided to take it to whole new levels, by handing out tickets for opening their visors when they talk to the officers who pull them over, and other levels of unfair tickets. One friend of mine told me that he was pulled over on the BQE, and written a ticket for traveling 35 in a 50 during rush hour traffic, because the officer couldn't write him up for any violations since he kept his visor closed while talking to him, and the bike was factory stock. Impeding the flow of traffic, or some such nonsense. In rush hour traffic.

I really hope they get Bloomberg out of office soon.
I want to visit my old hunting grounds on my toys sometime in the near future when I visit my newborn niece, and tow my bikes across the country.

BC.