Big monster, open discussion.

Started by toudg, March 09, 2011, 11:58:58 AM

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Raux

Quote from: Eddie_322 on March 10, 2011, 04:33:25 AM


You know when the 916 came out in 1994 it cost just over $14k. When the 998 was phased out for the 999 it cost just under $15k. What was  the 1098 MSRP?  $14,995. Ducati prices are coming down.

1198 base 16495
1098 base 14995
999 base 17995
998 base 17695


Ducati prices are going back up in the SBK. the reason for the huge drop from the 999 to 1098 was the need to regain the riders who fled the brand.
IMO be ready for a price of the new SBK to be closer if not above the 999 price and I don't expect a smaller SBK


toudg

Prices are going up or US dollar going down (or a mix) ... geez it's now 1,03$ CAN for a green one.

fastwin

To those that mentioned it, I don't think Ducati will try a classic/retro bike again. They did that with the GT1000 and Sport 1000 bikes and as nice as they were (I have one! [thumbsup]) they did not move off the showroom floors that fast. And that is also why they are gone from the line up.

Hey Doc, it hurts when I do this.

Well, then don't do that! [bang] [laugh]
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

sbrguy

its seems that the bigger monsters aren't selling thus the 1100 monster didnt' sell well, the 796 does.  the streetfighte is the s4rs but a different name really.

i see the sbk being more expensive they need that uber expensive one that will be the marque of the brand i see that as the next sbk sort of like the d16 was when it came out.  ducati would be dumb to get rid of the 848 or something like it bc it sells a lot of people on the middle ground that want something different than an r1 or cbr, which is what ducati needs to get more of.

the diavel and the multristrada are the outliers that will get the new folks that never consdered ducati ever before.  the monster lineup is not going anywhere they just get too many sales from it, but i see the larger dispacement monsters going by the wayside eventually.

muskrat

Quote from: pennyrobber on March 10, 2011, 09:46:11 AM
It would be cool to see a streetfighter done up to look like an older monster. Headlight, tank, tail, reroute exhaust...

I'm scared to see the 2012 prices.  But on a lighter note, an exhaust like this would be kick ass
Can we thin the gene pool? 

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Grendel

Exactly my sentiments.  I want to buy a new or late model watercooled monster.  if they sold one with the 848 engine, I'd take it (and put on an old skool headlight).

I've thought about converting a SF by changing the lights and the fuel tank, but it seems there's more to the lines of the bike that will make the conversion look odd.

I'm not holding my breath for a monster with a watercooled engine though, I think the current design brief is to have the classic looks of an air cooled engine.

DavidK

I have a 95 900M -
I feel like I am riding a piece of ART - Granted the newer models are sweet, these OLD original Carbed 2Vs are just SWEET to look at.
I responded to question about "SV650 OR Monster? - which should I buy" on a local riders forum here in the Pacific NW area.  My take was that when I am done riding my Monster, I plan on draining the fluids and mounting it to the wall in my garage (or living room if the family would EVER agree!!) and just LOOK at it - I don't see doing that with the Suzuki...
Ducati had it right back then - then again I am biased!!
Best...

671M900

Quote from: scduc on March 09, 2011, 05:26:14 PM
I would venture to say that Ducati will throw the 4 valver in the Monster frame soon. Could be that they want to "force" the sales of the Diavel to those who want big power by not giving an option. Clearly the monster line will always be their best seller, so until those numbers start to fall they may not do anything.

I really doubt that. Ducati themselves have said that the Streetfighters purpose was to take over the water cooled naked bike division for them, and the monster would be purely air-cooled. It may happen eventually, if the Streetfighter ever fails, which I doubt, but it's too early to tell. 
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Bishamon

Quote from: Grendel on March 10, 2011, 08:14:38 PM
Exactly my sentiments.  I want to buy a new or late model watercooled monster.  if they sold one with the 848 engine, I'd take it (and put on an old skool headlight).

I'd like a superbike with an air-cooled engine.  :)

I wonder if rumors of a new SuperSport being in development are true.
2011 Monster 796
2007 Sport 1000 SE (SOLD) :(

fastwin

Quote from: Bishamon on March 11, 2011, 01:07:11 PM
I'd like a superbike with an air-cooled engine.  :)


I believe AM (Josh) on the DFWM board has an air cooled/Tamburini project going I think. [thumbsup]
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

Droopz

I'm new to the Monster (and bikes in general really) but I have a 620 that im learning on for teh next few months. I loveit but its really too small fo rme to keep long term. I'm a tall guy (about 6'3") and was wondering how much 'bigger' the other monsters were. Not interested in the updated monsters (696 etc) but I dont mind the S4r etc...

There are none locally for me to sit on, so before I do all the work/travelling to find one, can anyone tell me if they (s2r, s4r etc...) are physically larger bikes than the 620?

I jumped on a Streetfighter and it fit well and i loved it, but its an expensive jump up in hardware for a 2nd bike haha.

671M900

Quote from: Droopz on March 13, 2011, 08:10:05 PM
I'm new to the Monster (and bikes in general really) but I have a 620 that im learning on for teh next few months. I loveit but its really too small fo rme to keep long term. I'm a tall guy (about 6'3") and was wondering how much 'bigger' the other monsters were. Not interested in the updated monsters (696 etc) but I dont mind the S4r etc...

There are none locally for me to sit on, so before I do all the work/travelling to find one, can anyone tell me if they (s2r, s4r etc...) are physically larger bikes than the 620?

I jumped on a Streetfighter and it fit well and i loved it, but its an expensive jump up in hardware for a 2nd bike haha.

They are all about the same size. The 4 valvers look a little bigger because the engine is a very busy looking setup. I'd website to say with aftermarket rearsets, you would be placed higher on the bike, making it look a little bigger.
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Droopz

Already invested rear sets, risers and custom seat into the 620. If the others are essentially the same geometry i'll have to look at other bikes.

Thanks for the input :)

bikepilot

The streetfighter is more stretched out and comfy than the mosters imho.  Duc just really nailed the ergonomics on the SF (at least for my sensibilities and body).  I'd have one if I could afford it.  Maybe by the time I've got my student loans paid off they'll have put a CURRENT superbike motor in it.  [thumbsup]
2009 XB12XT
2006 Monster 620 (wife's)
1997 TL1000S
1975 Kawasaki H1 Mach III
2001 CR250R (CO do-it-all bike)
2000 XR650R (dez racer)
2003 KX100 (wife's)
1994 DR250SE (wife's/my city commuter)

twolanefun

The new M1100 Evo is a perfect evolution of the Monster IMHO, 2V, 100HP, ABS( that can be turned off), TC, and the right Torque, it really is a perfect street bike and will even cause some havoc on some of the tracks with bikes with more power. Just MHO - Gene
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13' Diavel - 13K+ Miles Pay attention and things will be okay
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