M696 Performance Information

[freeclimbmtb]

OK, I have had my bike about a year now (see signature) and have scoured the web for some good acurate performance data.  (And yes I know a lot of this kind of information is really meaningless in the motorcycle world, but just for the sake of comparisons)

For instance a quartermile time?  Also, the specific effects of the Termi/race ecu kit in terms of horsepower, topspeed etc...

I just read a spec that puts the stock 696 at 67.5bhp and a top speed of 128mph

My bike has had the slipons ecu and filter kit since I've owned it and I distinctly remember seeing a peak speed of 141mph  on a closed track of course officer     (I have heard that motorcycle speedometers decrease in accuracy the faster you are traveling)

Anyone had their 696 on a dyno or run it at the track?

[freeclimbmtb]

Also according to MCN...that is a 4 valve motor...maybe I should look elsewhere.  Upon more digging, Ducati states 80hp (more what I remembered ...clearly MCN dropped the ball here)

[kopfjäger]

Also according to MCN...that is a 4 valve motor...maybe I should look elsewhere.  Upon more digging, Ducati states 80hp (more what I remembered ...clearly MCN dropped the ball here)

I bet that 80 is not at the wheel.

[freeclimbmtb]

I bet that 80 is not at the wheel.

kopfjäger=rain on my parade. 

[kopfjäger]

kopfjäger=rain on my parade. 

It's your parade. put it on a Dyno. 

[freeclimbmtb]

hmm...touche.  Know of any in New England?

[Desmojet]

Bike Magazine in Sweden did a test against the KTM 690 Duke, Triumph Street Triple and Honda CB600 FA in 2009.
Here are their numbers:

Dyno: 74.3hp (KTM 65.7 / Triumph 99.4 / Honda 92.7)
0-100 km/h:  4.65s
0-150 km/h:  8.80s
0-200 km/h:  21.83s
0-400 meters: 12.88s @ 176.3km/h

Acceleration  6th gear:
60-100 km/h: 8.26s
60-140 km/h: 11.31s
Top speed: 211.5 km/h (231km/h @ the speedo)

Weight (stock, full tank etc) 186kg

[bikepilot]

Those are also optimistic figures.  My guess is they added +20% to make them look like crank numbers.  It is very unusual for a KTM 690 to break 60hp at the wheel.

I'm sure there's no shortage of dynos in new england - most all performance shops have them.  Many shops will have a dyno day where everyone comes and has their bikes dynoed, they cook burgers and generally make a big event of it.

[the_Journeyman]

I bet that 80 is not at the wheel.

I'm going to agree, my 900SS is rated 80HP at the wheel.  I'm betting the 67.5HP is at the wheel, my M750 is around 62 at the wheel IIRC. 

JM

[Raux]

somewhere Ducati changed from at the wheel to at the crank for HP rating
my old 99 M900 was rated at 74 IIRC and pretty certain that was at the wheel
the 696 is rated at 80 at the crank and pretty certain on that by just a seat of the pants comparison from memory
141 top speed - 8 to 9% = 129 to 128
your manual tells you the speedo is off but can't remember if it was 8 or 9 percent
I think the estimate for the termi system was about 7% increase so @86 at the crank.
189kg wet... that's seems high.
155 dry (some say 163)
3.8gallons of fuel is 10kg
3qts of oil is 2.55kg
battery 4.54kg
Total: 172-180 kg  a full  9kg less on the high estimate and 17kg on the low..
that's a huge discrepancy.
wonder how much air in the tires weighs?

[Veloce-Fino]

I don't know about number for the 696 but the S2R1k is BARELY faster than my 696 with an equal weight rider. Then again I have dropped about 30 pounds off the bike.

[kopfjäger]

somewhere Ducati changed from at the wheel to at the crank for HP rating

They did that to make the HP number look bigger, like all the other bike manufacturers.  Put it on a Dyno.

[Raux]

so I finallly redlined it in 6th gear

DP ECU with stock gearing

218 kph (not sure if I reported higher/lower, gotta figure wind as wasn't not wearing full leathers and not full tuck)

218kph = 134.5mph

figure the 8% speedo correction

200.5kph = 123.8 mph

[Adamm0621]

I dyno'd my 696 with CF termis, ecu, and 14t front sprocket... 66 hp at the rear wheel.

[Anchorism]

so I finallly redlined it in 6th gear

DP ECU with stock gearing

218 kph (not sure if I reported higher/lower, gotta figure wind as wasn't not wearing full leathers and not full tuck)

218kph = 134.5mph

figure the 8% speedo correction

200.5kph = 123.8 mph

I thought you said youve redlined it before?  Maybe i am mistaken.... I know i cant get mine to redline in 6th...too much wind blast.  BUT ive had the speedo up to 227KM.  Of course that was on the no speed zone on the autobahn.  PLUS i had my fricken visor on my helmet, and my floppy reflective vest on..... Ill have to try it again with better condition.