MotoGP Rnd 2-Jerez <SPOILERS>

[ducpainter]

If I raced I would probably have a better answer for you. But my best guess would be soft or hard wets just like slicks. Looks to me like they were wearing way too fast. A look at Haydens rear tire at the end of the race and it was completely spent.

Jorge's was the same...

I believe that is an inherent quality of rains because the water cools the tire.

They need to be soft to stick, and it's always been that a full wet tire in the dry won't last.

Talk to Dorna about allowing cut slicks.

fwiw, bayliss didn't always get it right, either... remember imola 2001? troy crashed his paul smart tribute bike in the wet race 1, fractured his collarbone and sat out race 2.

No one gets it right every time...except you.

I'm thinking of a Donnington race? where he crashed like 6 times and still finished 5th or 6th.

This is shaping up to be a great season.

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Casey's starting to see Rossi everywhere  

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90428

[mitt]

It didn't rain after the race started. The track was drying.

What would choice in wets accomplish?

On the motogp.com feed you can still see it raining pretty hard at the end of the race.

Hayden and JL's tires were essentially slicks at the end of the race.  The close-ups of the rears in winners box was interesting.


mitt

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Nicky's rear tire

http://yfrog.com/h7q4noaj

[DukeDenver]

Anyone watch the video MotoGP put up of the Paddock girls in Jerez?    I'll take 4 please! 

[derby]

Talk to Dorna about allowing cut slicks.

here are the tire regs from 2008:

http://motomatters.com/news/2008/12/22/fim_announces_new_tire_regulations_for_m.html

the relevant part:

Although no mention was made of intermediate tires in either the old regulations or in the new rules, there is a passage in the new rules which basically rules them out. Under the new regulations, only the tires supplier can cut tires, and any alterations to tires for one rider must be made identically available for all riders. As the rule stands, intermediate tires will only be cut from the available slicks if the tire supplier decides it is necessary, and the tire supplier must supply exactly the same tires for all riders. That basically means no individual rider is able to ask for intermediate tires any more.

so they're not exactly disallowed, they're just not available unless bridgestone decides that they're needed for the conditions and makes them available to everybody.

(unless this part of the tire regs was changed since 2008)

[Desmostro]

Rossi went from 12th to 2nd. Crashed then went from 13th to 5th.
That's 13 passes!

Now granted, 2nd he took out (we have reviewed the soap opera). Some he passed while they were on the ground or back in Paddocks. But Gaaawdam. That's a lot of movement.

I'm impressed.

[lazylightnin717]

On the motogp.com feed you can still see it raining pretty hard at the end of the race.

Hayden and JL's tires were essentially slicks at the end of the race.  The close-ups of the rears in winners box was interesting.


mitt

Pedro talked in his interview about not being able to give it full throttle down the straights. That's kinda awesome in a weird way

[Jester]

Didn't get to see the race until just now, but say what you will about the move on Stoner.... Rossi was flying at that point and although he should have waited another few corners, would have passed Stoner regardless, he just took a chance that didn't pan out.  I think he wins the race if that doesn't happen, but racing is racing and shit does happen.

[IZ]

I just watched as well.  Not typically a fan of the wet races but that was fun to watch!  Still in disbelief at The Doctor's performance!     It would've been nice to see Simoncelli finish first.  Tough breaks for so many!

[DoubleEagle]

All bets are of in the Rain  !

Remember Assen in '09 I think it was in WSBK.

Dolph

[ducpainter]

On the motogp.com feed you can still see it raining pretty hard at the end of the race.

Hayden and JL's tires were essentially slicks at the end of the race.  The close-ups of the rears in winners box was interesting.


mitt

the eurosport feed said the track was almost dry.

either way the wets didn't hold up.

[Monsterlover]

I just watched as well.  Not typically a fan of the wet races but that was fun to watch!  Still in disbelief at The Doctor's performance!     It would've been nice to see Simoncelli finish first.  Tough breaks for so many!

I liked how one of the announcers called him Sideshow Bob

[zooom]

All bets are of in the Rain  !

Remember Assen in '09 I think it was in WSBK.

Dolph

or LeMans in 08....

the eurosport feed said the track was almost dry.

either way the wets didn't hold up.

no they didn't...they just aren't meant to on a dry/drying track either....it became a game of throttle control and keep it upright to bring it home for which the remaining field of finishers did exactly that...


and IMHO ( and I know I am in the minority on this) I am not a Rossi fanboy and not taking his side per sey, but it wasn't a dick move or a douche move, but a racing move that just didn't work due to the a-typical Ducati front end for which it just happened...Rossi was moving well past Stoner at that point and there were many other guys who made that EXACT same move/pass and just stuck it...so it wasn't really that unreasonable....now, if Val had not been as far past him and was say, still side by side pushing him outward or even if Stoner had a wheel's worth of an edge in front of him and it happened, I'd be saying something different...but I don't think it was an unreasonable move at all, especially given how much room there was between them before his front end folded...it just didn't hold and Casey became collateral damage...

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or LeMans in 08....

Or Indianapolis....wait, that was a hurricane