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Author Topic: Helmet law in MI may be 86'd soon.  (Read 21200 times)
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« Reply #105 on: April 15, 2012, 06:20:12 PM »

Guess I'll look more goofy now because I'll continue to wear full gear... oh well. I worry about my mom who's back on a bike (riding cupcake w/ her "new" beau ...but she use to ride a gnarly raked out Japanese bike with a coffin tank) He's got a Rocket III but they ride with harley folk.

Insurance is gonna be a mixed bag for different states and for lack of a better word "demographics"  just like it's always been. I think this is bad  but the arguement for the repeal is valid... seat belts, recycling, passengers in the bed of a pickup may soon fall too. Morally I'm for all these but sometimes I forget to buckle up for a block or two; think it's asinine to require beverages-that-fizz bottles be recycled yet water and juice bottles can go to the landfill; and finally cruising the beach in the back of a truck was fun... don't know when the mitten turned into a nanny state...

I'm kinda torn on this one but my Shark RSX flag saved my face. The chin bar was grided a bit and it had bloody teeth impressions inside when I turned it over to the insurance agent for the claim. The 695 was totaled but I'm fine and so is all my other gear.

The repeal requires those 21 and up to get 20k in medical insurance. I think that won't cover head trauma but it doesn't matter.  There's nothing on my issuance binder saying I have extra medical. This measure that protects my wallet from the road pirates is unenforceable until after the fact like the texting and driving laws.

I guess I'm gonna acquiesce since driving/riding is not a right.  I may pay more but I'm not giving up these privileges.
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« Reply #106 on: April 15, 2012, 06:27:23 PM »

I am not certain that is the case, in fact, if it's legal to ride in your state without a helmet an insurer cannot deny a claim based on that UNLESS you contractually agreed to wear one.


Not in Texas.   It's already been through the courts.
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« Reply #107 on: April 15, 2012, 09:45:03 PM »

I am sure plenty has been said for and against helmet law in this thread.  I don't think I can add any more fuel to the fire.  Just want to add this though:

18 months ago, a careless driver made an illegal turn and t-boned me while I was going 35 miles.  It's a relative slow speed collision that I didn't even see coming.  One sec I was riding, the next second I was knocked out and sliding on my side.  Although I sustained a couple broken ribs and soft tissue injury to my left ankle, my head was fine; just a small paint chip on my helmet.  Without a full face helmet (or even a helmet), I wouldn't be just doing rehab on my ankle, I'd be learning how to talk again. 

IMO, there are people who can't make the right decision to save their own lives (pun intended) that it would require a state law to help them stay alive.
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« Reply #108 on: April 15, 2012, 10:01:30 PM »

My accident was slow as well, 30-35mph. Never found the face shield to my helmet...
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« Reply #109 on: April 16, 2012, 07:59:50 AM »

I think a portion of the cost of a helmet should be added to the cost of the bike and be given out at the dealer when you get the bike. If you are so dumb that you don't want to wear it even after having one.. I guess it should be left to the individual to face the outcome should an event occur. And the insurance company should be allowed to cap medical payments if the rider/ pillion did not have gear when they go down (and of course have full disclosure of this when you get the insurance and NOT fine print).
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« Reply #110 on: March 19, 2013, 11:29:04 AM »

Its been one year and a study in the local paper today states "Deaths jump 18 percent since allowing bikers to ride without helmets".

I can't find article online yet to link but I'm sure it will be around later today.
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« Reply #111 on: March 19, 2013, 12:56:50 PM »

more funerals of bikers expected i Michegan then ?

broken legs and arms , crushed vertibrae ,busted ribs and collar bones  burned and scuffed skin can be fixed , heads smashed like eggs cant
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« Reply #112 on: March 19, 2013, 01:13:27 PM »

Cigarette smoking is legal too, that doesn't mean it's a good idea to do it.

I could care less about the helmet law, i'd still wear mine.
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« Reply #113 on: March 19, 2013, 05:21:45 PM »

Cigarette smoking is legal too, that doesn't mean it's a good idea to do it.

I could care less about the helmet law, i'd still wear mine.

+1, but I'm all for less laws "intended" to protect people.
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« Reply #114 on: March 20, 2013, 04:35:32 AM »

+1, but I'm all for less laws "intended" to protect people.

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« Reply #115 on: March 20, 2013, 06:30:37 AM »

Gene Pool Lifeguard....let natural selection do it's job in weeding out those who deem it unnecessary to protect themselves in the pursuit of performing risky activity.

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« Reply #116 on: March 20, 2013, 08:42:02 AM »

I am an ATTGAT rider as well.  I have replaced more helmets than bikes.  That being said I did a little vacation in Hawaii and rented a V-Rod for a couple of days. 

I have to admit that it was awesome to ride around with no lid in Hawaii.  The entire time I waited to get killed by a tourist but it was still amazing and I am darn glad that I had the choice to do something stupid. 

It was the first time in 30 years I had ridden a motorcycle without a helmet and it was a treat.  Would I do it all the time?  Heck no!
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« Reply #117 on: March 20, 2013, 11:38:56 AM »

i didnt read any of this thread, but my opinion is.....

helmets are always a good idea, I cant remember the last time Ive ridden without one (started riding in tx where there is no helmet law, now in ny where im pretty sure there is)
helmet laws on the other hand, bad.

if you dont wear a helmet you are not risking injury to anyone other than yourself it should be your own choice to make a dumb decision

a helmet law is just like bloombergs large soda ban..... and that one obv didnt hold up in court
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« Reply #118 on: March 20, 2013, 12:07:44 PM »

i didnt read any of this thread, but my opinion is.....

helmets are always a good idea, I cant remember the last time Ive ridden without one (started riding in tx where there is no helmet law, now in ny where im pretty sure there is)
helmet laws on the other hand, bad.

if you dont wear a helmet you are not risking injury to anyone other than yourself it should be your own choice to make a dumb decision

a helmet law is just like bloombergs large soda ban..... and that one obv didnt hold up in court
Let's keep this to the helmet law in MI

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« Reply #119 on: March 20, 2013, 12:18:51 PM »

from the op: Helmet Laws: Good or Bad? Discuss

i fail to see how my comment is off topic or how you can keep politics out of a thread that is discussing if a law is a good or bad idea... hmmmm bacon

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