MotoGP 2011 -- Rd 4 Le Mans (SPOILERS)

[kopfjäger]

Best comment came from Nicky. 

Nicky Hayden, Ducati Team

”I’ve had one look at it so I didn’t really get to slow it down and watch it a couple of times, so I’m not really sure. It’s between them two, they don’t need me to weigh in on it as I’m sure everyone will have an opinion on it. Two guys racing hard, things can happen, there’s been a lot of drama this weekend, a lot of arm waving and this and that.”

[ducpainter]

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As for the DePuniet / Stoner incident, supposedly DP apologized afterward. While the punch was pretty typical Stoner brattyness, it's not worth more punishment than he got. Calling for him to get DQ'ed over that is over the top.

As for the rest of the race...

It's going to be Honda's year, isn't it? That's a shame as I hate Hondas.

I don't think so....and what would I apologize for?

$5K means nothing to him.

Taking a racer out of a race means something.

I also don't think the Simoncelli/Pedrosa incident was all Simoncellis' fault.

[Drunken Monkey]

I don't think so....and what would I apologize for?

$5K means nothing to him.

Taking a racer out of a race means something.

I can't even parse this to make a rebuttal 

[Triple J]

Pretty good race, even though it was a bit of a parade for a while. Nice to see Ducati on the podium, even if it was due to the crash.

The accident looked like Simo's fault...but I haven't watched it over and over, and I don't really care to. Bummer for Pedrobot though as he's been riding well.

What's up with Spies?

Stoner is going to be very tough to beat, as expected.

The Moto2 race was better (as usual).  

Oh yeah...J Lo needs to shut his trap about aggressive riding. The bump pass he put on Simo (I think it was Simo...can't remember for sure) early in the race was the exact same thing he has been pregnant doging about for a while. Nice pass though. 

[kopfjäger]

The Moto2 race was better (as usual).  

It was a damn good race, but Dovi putting it to the golden boy was better action. 

[ducpainter]

I can't even parse this to make a rebuttal 

Gee...

you confuse pretty easily.

I guess you don't understand sarcasm.

My bad...I'm DP...he's RDP...at least in my mind;)

As for the DePuniet / Stoner incident, supposedly DP apologized afterward. While the punch was pretty typical Stoner brattyness, it's not worth more punishment than he got. Calling for him to get DQ'ed over that is over the top.

As for the rest of the race...

It's going to be Honda's year, isn't it? That's a shame as I hate Hondas.

Stoner is still a whiney pregnant dog...and deserved more than a monetary penalty. That means nothing to these guys.

[lazylightnin717]

I just want to jump in here and say that I still don't like Stoner. I know. It's pretty shallow

[zarn02]

  I wonder if Stoner would have punched Simoncelli.....that might have been interesting.

"I could have won the fight, but about three swings in I got a bad cramp in my right hand."

[koko64]

I reckon RDP's riding in practice was more dangerous than Simmo's under full race conditions. RDP should also have been fined. A huge speed differential for potentially fatal circumstances.

I think if Simmo had taken out a satellite team rider he may not have received his penalty. You can't run over a Puig/Repsol rider. Also the build up of complaints against Simmo may have swayed the officials over time. When I first saw the incident I thought Simmo was all to blame but after seeing a slow-mo of it Pedrosa stands the bike up big time maybe because he can't make the corner or to punt Simmo out of the way to give him some of his own medicine. I'm unsure exactly why. I actually feel sorry for the little bugger though.

I'm a Stoner fan but I would like him to complain less and punch more. Give 'em 10 grand and beat the shit out of him to put the fear into your opponents! That's what Doohan would have done! Imagine Rainey, Schwanz, Doohan and Gardner in the same circumstances, it would be UFC meets GP!

Maybe it's all getting too PC. Young guys full of aggression, pushing hard will always have incidents.

It is a contact sport anyway, apparently, (what a stupid thing for an official to say).

[fastwin]

OK. Finally got to see the race and I'm with the Marco is bad troop. Funky pass attempt at best. I am neither a big fan of either but if the situation were reversed I would call funky pass attempt on Pedrobot. My two cents... who cares?

My main beef is wtf is up with The Ben? Maybe he should have stayed another year with Tech 3 and hit a couple of Colin's boot camp ranch things in the hill country! He's riding like he could use it! Great talent but not up to factory results and don't you know they see it. First off, I'm a huge fan and hope things turn around. The talent and maybe some better luck has to show through at some point. But with the Honda domination he may never have the chance. Oh, by the way, did I mention I like WSBK about 100 times better than MotoGP? Having watched the LeMans race it's better than a AdvilPM... I'll sleep like a baby out of boredom! Come on Miller WSBK races!!!

[BastrdHK]

Harsh penalty IMO....Simmonceli was past him on the brakes entering that corner.  They bumped, then the pair of them stood their bikes up to sort it out in the gravel and Dani simply was not strong enough to hold the bike up under the second contact.  I know it was front wheel vs. back wheel, but Marco barely even twitched and it looked like Dani hit oil.....the instant they touched he is on the tarmac.  Give Marco credit, he is on a not quite factory bike and he was almost on Stoner's pace.  He is aggressive, but I would much rather see an aggressive move than settle for a position/result.  MotoGP just gained some entertainment factor!

[zooom]

Oh yeah...J Lo needs to shut his trap about aggressive riding. The bump pass he put on Simo (I think it was Simo...can't remember for sure) early in the race was the exact same thing he has been pregnant doging about for a while. Nice pass though. 

it was Dovi he used as a bumpstop in that turn on that pass...which is why it made me happy that Dovi ( though it took longer than I wanted) passed him back and cleanly...but I agree, that JLo was a douchebag for doing exactly what he was pregnant doging against....seems there was a fair bit of hypocrisy in the actions versus words of Stoner and JLo this weekend...enough that maybe their complaints may not get the same consideration as they have in the past....

I was also very happy with all of Marco's "other" passes as he was "clean as you like" in all the other ones...as far as the Pedrobot incident....well...I can beat a dead horse and say anything, but it doesn't matter..while Simo is aggressive, there was not 100% fault on Simo on that one...yes, more of it is on his shoulders than not...but not all of it...and if you think Dani doesn't know that, I think you are wrong, hence why he didn't make a huge stink about it beyond just saying the little that he did...

otherwise, wasn't a bad race, and Moto2 was an awesome one too!

[fastwin]

Looking forward to viewing the Moto2 race tonight. Saw the results already on line but that doesn't make watching it any less interesting. I like some of the previous comments about the old guard 500ccGP riders and how they raced and how it compares to the whiny/PC racing of today. I saw racing back then (not in person) that would have kept Stoner and Company up all night and scared shitless. Fairing banging, block passes and high sides galore. Funny... I don't remember anyone pregnant doging that much about it, post incident garage confrontations and fines being issued. And that was in KR Sr.'s day! Think he'd put up with any shit? Get up, duct tape your torn leathers, limp back to your bike, bump start it and get back to it.

[pennyrobber]

I saw racing back then (not in person) that would have kept Stoner and Company up all night and scared shitless.

Yeah, like this.

[duccarlos]

Simo is a fast douchebag. 95% his fault.

I can't believe you guys complaining about Stoner after basically calling him a pussy for weeks and now he's a badass.