What are you reading?

[lazylightnin717]

Triple J: have you read any of the other Vonnegut books?

[duccarlos]

Very interesting read as well. The Ventura story wasn't in the version of American Sniper that I just read.

I presume they removed it since they went to court.

[Triple J]

Triple J: have you read any of the other Vonnegut books?

Ya, quite a few. I'm a big Vonnegut fan. Cat's Cradle is my favorite. Welcome to the Monkey House is a cool collection of his short stories.

I don't remember the specifics of Blue Beard, as I read it a long time ago. I just remember thinking it was a cool book.

[Rudemouthsky]

I presume they removed it since they went to court.

Ventura was never mentioned by name in the book, only as "Scruffy" who Kyle later ID'd as Ventura in interviews. Is the "Scruffy" barfight story in the version yall read? What about his story about being summoned to shoot looters from a rooftop in the aftermath of Katrina by a top secret govt agency?

[duccarlos]

What about his story about being summoned to shoot looters from a rooftop in the aftermath of Katrina by a top secret govt agency?

Did you read the book?

[Rudemouthsky]

Did you read the book?

Nope. The Ventura story broke in 2012. "Scruff Face" was the character in the book and the lawsuit wasn't filed until Kyle id'd Ventura as "Scruff Face" on Opie and Anthony then Bill O'Reilly. And in the dozen or so objective reviews I've read on AS the story was always Scruff Face. There's absolutely no reason to believe Ventura was ever named in the book and a mountain  of evidence to say he wasn't. It's a little like confirming the validity of nuclear fission without having to split an atom yourself.

So....is the "Scruff Face" story in the contemporary version?

[Triple J]

Ventura was never mentioned by name in the book, only as "Scruffy" who Kyle later ID'd as Ventura in interviews. Is the "Scruffy" barfight story in the version yall read? What about his story about being summoned to shoot looters from a rooftop in the aftermath of Katrina by a top secret govt agency?

No, none of that is in the version I just read (finished last week). I would have remembered either, especially since I was looking for anything sounding like the Ventura story. The Katrina story is just too out there to forget. Good book, although some does seem a bit far fetched (what do I know though, I've never been to war)...but the Katrina thing is just over the top.

[1.21GW]

from wikipedia:

Changes to book after initial publication
The sub-chapter titled "Punching Out Scruff Face" was removed by HarperCollins in subsequent editions after a U.S. Federal Trial Jury on July 29, 2014 found this section of the book and the book's author, Chris Kyle, in TV and Radio interviews had defamed the plaintiff, Jesse Ventura, and were unjustly enriched by that defamation. The jury awarded $500,000 for defamation and $1,345,477.25 for unjust enrichment. The lawsuit, Ventura v. Kyle, is currently being appealed by the defendant to the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit.

So it looks like it was taken out in editions published after Jul/2014.

[Rudemouthsky]

A.J Delgado of "The National Review" penned a very good, apolitical article about the lawsuit and the vitriol that went Ventura's way after the suit. Just Google if ya wanna check it out.

For the record I'm not a huge Ventura fan although there is much to be admired about someone as "comfortable in his own skin" as he is. I've tried to argue with him on his FB page when he spouts certain conspiracy theories...but he hasn't responded yet, lol.

[Jaman]

Light and Shade: Conversations with Jimmy Page

 

[kopfjäger]

Learning to Eat Soup with a Knife

John A. Nagal

[Privateer]

Trying to read Clockwork Orange... tough for me with all the slang.  I had to put it down and I'll get back to it when I'm more focused.

In the meantime I started on Starship Troopers.


To the person reading Dune.  I've read them all.  Even the "expanded universe" books by the son.  Don't bother with those unless you're like me and just had to read it all. 

Of the six Frank books, I actually like the last 2 the most.  Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse: Dune.

[duccarlos]

Trying to read Clockwork Orange... tough for me with all the slang.  I had to put it down and I'll get back to it when I'm more focused.

In the meantime I started on Starship Troopers.


To the person reading Dune.  I've read them all.  Even the "expanded universe" books by the son.  Don't bother with those unless you're like me and just had to read it all. 

Of the six Frank books, I actually like the last 2 the most.  Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse: Dune.

Starship Trooper was the very first book I read for pleasure. Hooked from there. Not what you expect at all and still one of the best scifi books I've ever read. The second and third Dune books were not great.

[Grampa]

Learning to Eat Soup with a Knife

John A. Nagal

Send a copy to droneboy.

[lazylightnin717]

Trying to read Clockwork Orange... tough for me with all the slang.  I had to put it down and I'll get back to it when I'm more focused.

Have you seen the movie?