Pick up truck tries to kill biker

[red baron]

I'm goin' with that.

Exactly what I thought.


Just because you can does not mean you should.

[ManaloEA]

You can in VT.

just sayin'

I'm a basically a new rider. I used to ride dirt bikes when I was a kid. But that was over 25 years ago. But it sound like you are implying that motorcycle riders don't have to follow traffic laws... that we can do whatever we like, because we can.

[ducpainter]

I'm a basically a new rider. I used to ride dirt bikes when I was a kid. But that was over 25 years ago. But it sound like you are implying that motorcycle riders don't have to follow traffic laws... that we can do whatever we like, because we can.

Nope...what I said was it is legal to pass a slower moving vehicle in VT whether there is a double yellow or not.

The law was intended to prevent cars...and bikes...from getting stuck behind slow moving farm tractors for miles.

Nothing in there about bikes not having to obey laws.

[slowpoke13]

I actually waded through all 35 pages on the other forum... Wow, just wow...

Couple random points from the video;
1. The pass - Who cares, it's done by a good percentage of riders (or so I'm told).
2. The truck's initial response - Wow, dude's an angry idiot.
3. The truck swerving and blocking the road - Wow, dude's a really angry idiot.
4. #2 rider following - great video. I'll say it again, ... GoPro cameras are the greatest thing evar! ...
5. #1 bike stopping at the stop sign - usual stopping place while waiting for fellow riders, I'd guess.
6. Truck driver stopping at stop sign - finally following proper traffic laws. Big UPS for him.
7. Riders 1 and 2 getting off their bikes - Not the smartest thing to do. You have NO CLUE what's going through the head of the already established (see #s 2 & 3) angry idiot. Better to avoid the situation altogether. Riders should have just kept their kickstands up and used the stop sign to get away from the truck completely.
8. Rider #2 saying he's gonna call the cops - Not smart. Again, you have no clue of the mental state of the truck driver other than "angry idiot."
9. Rider #2 saying he's got the whole thing on camera - Not smart. Are you trying to instigate him? Do you really think telling him that would cause him to say "ohh shit, I guess I should behave myself NOW." Not, "well, I might be able to get the evidence..." Cause he's already demonstrated plenty of common sense while behind the wheel of the truck.

[The Bearded Duc]

The tailing rider on the 13x forum said the road is a 55mph, and they weren't going more than 65mph. That doesn't seem too out of order on a clear, sunny day.

I am most certainly the pot calling the kettle black cause when I'm on the twisties I'm usually over the speed limit too.

But, and I still can't figure it out, if we're arguing legalities in this thread than anything over the posted speed limit is illegal and we're back at everyone in the video being in the wrong.

[justinrhenry]

i've had people try to swerve into me while lane splitting on the interstates around dallas.  i only lane split when traffic is stopped or near stopped (because it's not legal here).  it seems going very slow and cautious just gives them more time to prepare their swerve or at the very least give them time to get all the way over in their lane so there's no room for me to split. 

obviously i'm wrong for lane splitting because it's technically not legal and i fully expect assmunchery.  you take the good with the bad...

[muskrat]

Holy shit.  I would not have kept my cool about me with that driver and most likely spent the night in jail after my shenanigans.  That's all I'll say before I incriminate myself.

As for splitting lanes in Dallas.....ditto.  I do it when it's 100 degrees and expect an asshole or two but mostly they stand down; guess they feel sorry for some idiot riding in that weather anyway.

[ManaloEA]

Nope...what I said was it is legal to pass a slower moving vehicle in VT whether there is a double yellow or not.

The law was intended to prevent cars...and bikes...from getting stuck behind slow moving farm tractors for miles.

Nothing in there about bikes not having to obey laws.

Sorry, I misunderstood. The picture looked like it was saying something different, and got my lines crossed.

[Spidey]

I'm baffled by some of the comments in this thread.  The riders are at fault?!?  Huh?!?  What'd they do other than cross on a DY?  If that's all it takes to ride like an asshole, then I'm a gazillion times more of an asshole then I'd ever imagined.  So they followed the guy.  Who gives  make the beast with two backs?  That's not riding like an asshole.  That's following someone to get the ID of the dude who tried to kill your friend.  As for confronting him afterward, how's that an asshole move?!?   Look, normally I'm all for unfair Monday-morning-quarterbacking on the interwebs, but that's just nutty.  I just don't get it.  Those guys were just out for a ride and Mr. NoTeeth McSistermake the beast with two backser tried to put them in a ditch.

But it sound like you are implying that motorcycle riders don't have to follow traffic laws... that we can do whatever we like, because we can.

Yup, pretty much.  Just don't get caught.   

[DRKWNG]

I think the instance of confronting the driver was more an example of being plain old stupid rather than being an asshole.  As mentioned earlier, you never know what the guy had with him in the cab of the truck. 

[Spidey]

I think the instance of confronting the driver was more an example of being plain old stupid rather than being an asshole.  As mentioned earlier, you never know what the guy had with him in the cab of the truck. 

Sure, I guess.  But that conversation at the end is just golden for a criminal case against the guy.   

[rideserotta]

I'm baffled by some of the comments in this thread.  The riders are at fault?!?  Huh?!?  What'd they do other than cross on a DY?  If that's all it takes to ride like an asshole, then I'm a gazillion times more of an asshole then I'd ever imagined.  So they followed the guy.  Who gives  make the beast with two backs?  That's not riding like an asshole.  That's following someone to get the ID of the dude who tried to kill your friend.  As for confronting him afterward, how's that an asshole move?!?   Look, normally I'm all for unfair Monday-morning-quarterbacking on the interwebs, but that's just nutty.  I just don't get it.  Those guys were just out for a ride and Mr. NoTeeth McSistermake the beast with two backser tried to put them in a ditch.

Yup, pretty much.  Just don't get caught.   

[ab]

I'm baffled by some of the comments in this thread.  The riders are at fault?!?  Huh?!?  What'd they do other than cross on a DY?  If that's all it takes to ride like an asshole, then I'm a gazillion times more of an asshole then I'd ever imagined.  So they followed the guy.  Who gives  make the beast with two backs?  That's not riding like an asshole.  That's following someone to get the ID of the dude who tried to kill your friend.  As for confronting him afterward, how's that an asshole move?!?   Look, normally I'm all for unfair Monday-morning-quarterbacking on the interwebs, but that's just nutty.  I just don't get it.  Those guys were just out for a ride and Mr. NoTeeth McSistermake the beast with two backser tried to put them in a ditch.

Yup, pretty much.  Just don't get caught.   

[Mother]

I'm baffled by some of the comments in this thread.  The riders are at fault?!?  Huh?!?  What'd they do other than cross on a DY?  If that's all it takes to ride like an asshole, then I'm a gazillion times more of an asshole then I'd ever imagined.  So they followed the guy.  Who gives  make the beast with two backs?  That's not riding like an asshole.  That's following someone to get the ID of the dude who tried to kill your friend.  As for confronting him afterward, how's that an asshole move?!?   Look, normally I'm all for unfair Monday-morning-quarterbacking on the interwebs, but that's just nutty.  I just don't get it.  Those guys were just out for a ride and Mr. NoTeeth McSistermake the beast with two backser tried to put them in a ditch.

Yup, pretty much.  Just don't get caught.   

I think the subject of you being an asshole has been well established through the years

but I digress

This is why I personally feel that rider #2 is a complete make the beast with two backsing dick

Had I made that pass on the trucker

and

was in effect running flat out to save my life

The very last thing I would want my buddy doing is chasing the one-tooth wonder in order to get footage of the event

I would hope to all hell that as soon as he saw that the trucker was homicidal

and

giving chase

That he would stop his make the beast with two backsing motorcycle and call the police so they could come and save my ass

Before panic, fear, and excessive speed resulted in me eating shit

[Drunken Monkey]

You can in VT.

just sayin'

I'm not sure that's true as the last ticket I ever got in VT was for "limitations on passing" Then again, I was doing a lot wrong at the time and only by being extremely apologetic and polite to the state trooper did it get knocked down to just that. Might explain the fact that there are double yellows in addition to "No passing zone" signs. I dunno.

I don't fault the bikers at all. Maybe they shouldn't have stopped, maybe they shouldn't have told the guy they were calling the cops or had a video. But I doubt I'd have behaved any smarter.