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Author Topic: Pick up truck tries to kill biker  (Read 28658 times)
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2011, 06:44:42 AM »

damn....


a quick pass leads to a 7 minute chase with the pickup drifting a couple of corners.
pass might have been illegal, biker could have hit the brakes and dropped back in behind, no excuse for attempting to hit someone with your vehicle though.
i do think that jackhole in the truck was looking for a fight anyways cause of previous experience with them dang crotch rockets.

why not just get a description of the bikes and call the cops. explain that they just made an illegal pass and are speeding. if you can get a plate number then good. i will admit i have done this a few times when cars were all over the road and narrowly avoiding hitting others.
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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2011, 07:08:31 AM »

Except the bikers.  

You must not ride the twisty and never passed a slow car to say that.  

I would expect such remarks from a cager or a noob.

I hope the driver of the pickup is in jail.  Keeping fingers crossed.


going to the link at the beginning of this thread to the other board you would be surprised at the number of riders who felt the bike rider "brought it on himself"

Law enforcement on the roads is the exclusive franchise of well... law enforcement....call it in

I see so many "self-deputized" assholes on the NY Metro area roads...some are baiting for confrontation, some are just good-old self-righteous shit bags

Of course as they smugly block tailgaters and speeders .......they somehow magically already know that the car behind them doesn't have a medical emergency...

isn't headed for an Emergency  Room with a severed artery in that car, or a woman with an almost newborn's head poking out of her...nope they know it all.....

I am in favor of a law that makes it reckless endangerment to not yield to the tailgater or speeder...I don't care if you are "Going The Speed Limit" or 20 over...if he's on your ass get out of the way...you are putting everyone around you at risk

because speeders for whatever reasons in their insanity or desperation can trigger accidents around them trying to get past the asshole

I believe Mr. Self-Righteous Know-It-All should be held accountable for his/her share in roadway stupidity
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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2011, 07:19:03 AM »

Billy-Bob snaggle-tooth needs an ass-kicking....



IF you plan to confront, be prepared to get to work...... and never let an asshole return to his vehicle once things start to get ugly....  he just might arm himself... as done in the vid.
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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2011, 07:22:03 AM »

I have to say that I agree with Jacob - both the driver of that truck and the rider who crossed the double yellow, along with the guy chasing the truck were all in the wrong. There are obviously different levels of wrong - but without reading in detail on the links included in this thread, I could see all of the parties in that video being cited for one thing or another.

After a min or so, the front biker was so far out of sight that there was no need for the biker in the back to chase the truck. That was like waving the red flag to the bull and all it did was encourage the driver of the truck to drive more aggressively.

Frankly, after seeing how much the guy driving the truck did to endanger on coming traffic (A-hole), I was frankly shocked that he didn't try and brake check the biker behind hims sooner than at the very end when he arrived at the stop sign...I really think that the biker was lucky.

...but regardless, as I said, there was no need to give chase.

1st bad move: Passing on a double yellow
2nd bad move: truck driver crossed the double in attempted manslaughter
3rd bad move: rear biker gave chase to the truck driver.

For better or worse, it was all on video - incriminating all of them.

You can NOT ride on the road like you can on the track. Why don't people understand that.
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« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2011, 07:34:42 AM »

All kinds of stupid on that video.

Vehicular manslaughter is a ridiculous reaction to being passed. But like Dave said, the first guy was gone the minute after the pass. He had video evidence. He could have parked his ass and called the cops. If the guy really wanted to kill a biker, he could have taken out those guys that were coming in the opposite direction. He was going after the guy that passed him. Idiot redneck that should be put in jail, then I would charge the trailing guy for inciting the douchebag.

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#6 Slow moving vehicles are allowed to be passed on a double yellow if it is in a reasonable area and does not endanger oncoming traffic.Plenty of visible road as seen on vid.150+yards

Really? News to me. I know we like to defend what most of us do often, it doesn't make it right just because we're not caught doing it. Said it once, will say it 1000 times, take it to the track where there are no psycho rednecks trying to kill you with their pickup trucks.
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« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2011, 07:57:09 AM »

<Boomhower voice>...."whoo eeee, dang ol' crotch rocket, man...man i tell you whut, dang ol' boy come 'round me goin' vroom vroom ain't gonna happen boy, i tell you whut. i knock a pot knot on the side'a yo' head big enough for a calf to suck on. dadgum."

That was all I needed. Grin

Definitely the highlight of the thread!  laughingdp
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« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2011, 08:14:26 AM »

I'm not sure some of you watched the same video I did.

Yes, a pass was attempted on a double yellow line. But depends on the state and in many cases is legal...
Vermount for example: "Major highways are marked with yellow center lines which serve two purposes....the lines show if you should or should not pass. If there is a solid line or two solid lines, it is recommended that you do not pass. If there is a solid line but a broken line in your lane, you may pass if it is clear ahead. If there is a solid line in your lane but a broken line in the other lane, you should not pass, but the motor vehicle in the other lane may pass."

The lines are showing areas that may be unsafe to pass. double for unsafe, but if conditions apply can be used.

In the end, the road condition of the first pass would have made the pass whether it was safe and thereby legal, the discretion of the police officer and then court. BUT the actions of the truck driver clearly show intent to assault and potentially kill the passer.

AND the second rider having been separated from the first was in his right to continue to pursue his friend, not the driver of the truck... and I'm sure was not going to attempt to pass the truck to keep up the search and ensure his friends safety.
I do not think the truck driver was attempting to flee or in any way pushed by the bike behind him. It was obvious he was chasing the first rider.

The driver of the truck went over the double yellow in several unsafe, blind curves AND did make an attempt to take out the oncoming bikes.

The riders at the stop... were lucky IMO that the driver didn't pull a shotgun though. I would have gone around got the first rider, and beat it to the police with camera in hand, and probably truck in two chasing to prove the point.

There comes a time to stop illegal action when we feel someone is in imminent danger... I personally would not be a bystander if I saw someone getting hurt (bike riders in this case by documenting). But traffic enforcement... yeah not the time to be a vigilante(truck driver in his head).

As far as rules for passing versus allowing passing etc. On a two lane (both going the same direction) the right lane is the legal lane to be in. the left for passing... come to Europe and you will see the importance of that.
And yes they do give tickets for sitting in the left. AND for passing on the right. Also, it is your requirement under law to ensure the left is clear behind you BEFORE attempting to pass. This is the same on 2 lane roads (2 directions). you can't just pull out and pass without ensuring someone isn't passing you.


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« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2011, 08:25:23 AM »

In KY:



MARKINGS: COLORS, PATTERNS, MEANING

              DO NOT PASS

When there are double solid yellow lines.



ROAD MARKINGS: CROSSING A SOLID DOUBLE YELLOW LINE TO TURN LEFT

It's okay to cross a double yellow line to turn left. YOU CANNOT cross a double yellow line to pass another vehicle.

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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2011, 08:27:14 AM »

I would also think that if the driver wanted to kill the guy, he would have just run over him while he was stopped at the sign. To take nothing away from the driver, he's still a psycho, but again, no redneck psychos on the track.
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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2011, 08:35:09 AM »

I love when a law makes no sense.
Either you can cross it or you can't

There should be a break in the double yellow for legal left turns
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« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2011, 08:39:55 AM »

Takes more effort and cost to stripe like that and keep it current. A lot cheaper to edit a line of text
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« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2011, 08:40:42 AM »

Our local Ducati group posted this on their facebook page...pretty scary stuff!


Pickup driver tries to kill motorcyclist.
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« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2011, 08:43:04 AM »

Simple enough. No passing on the double yellow, ever. Turning left is not passing. I do think that turning left like that is a bit dangerous, especially for a biker.
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« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2011, 08:58:23 AM »

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=49401.0
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« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2011, 09:06:04 AM »

Sorry for the derby (should have seached)...mod please remove this post thx!
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