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« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2011, 11:59:03 AM »

This thread is the reason why I will do anything to try and avoid passing on the double yellow.  There are just too many things that could go wrong...and now I have to worry if the driver I'm passing wants to kill me on purpose!

It sucks to follow slow vehicles on the fun roads.  But it is just part of reality - we don't own the roads anymore than slow trucks do.  Behind slow vehicles I just try and slow up in the straights and catch 'em in the corners.  Or if possible pull off and wait for a nice gap in traffic.  And then pass when its safe AND legal.

Don't get me wrong...I don't always take my own advice...sometimes I get fed up to the point of making the pass when I shouldn't.  So...I'm not preaching to anyone, least of all the front rider in the video.  But it is a good example of a potentially fatal situation that could have been completely avoided had he not passed on the double yellow (even if the actual cause of death was 100% the drivers fault and intentional). 

I do love how cameras are becoming more prevalent - so that we can share these kinds of experiences...I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it!

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« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2011, 12:32:12 PM »

Oh, and one other thing...Let's not worry about 'how much' jail time this guy gets...let's just hope that he is in jail at least long enough to become a female companion of some large and unkind cell mate...

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« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2011, 12:51:53 PM »

That was nuts!  Note to self - avoid Bracken County Kentucky.
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« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2011, 01:22:35 PM »

It sucks that there are people in this world that enjoy ruining other people's days

For no reason at all
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« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2011, 01:26:51 PM »

The assumption everytime I  ride is that every car is out to kill me.  
Ofcourse, here is a great proof of that.
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« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2011, 01:29:28 PM »

I assume that they are out to kill me, but I try not to put myself into a situation where it's easier for them to do so.
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« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2011, 01:32:44 PM »

What an ass. Sad thing is, I've seen drivers try to pull this crap first hand.
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« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2011, 01:37:23 PM »

I assume that they are out to kill me, but I try not to put myself into a situation where it's easier for them to do so.

Not riding at all will achieve that. 
Never passing a slow moving car will do that.
Even in the places where you can legally do so, don't put yourself in that situation then.

Are u serious?

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« Reply #53 on: May 27, 2011, 01:46:37 PM »

Like I said before, you ride like an asshole and you attract assholes. Is up to you to decide.
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« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2011, 02:14:00 PM »

Like I said before, you ride like an asshole and you attract assholes. Is up to you to decide.

Sometimes just being on a motorcycle attracts assholes

Bad things just don't happen to "bad" people

they happen to good people too.

There are a lot of pending fights out there looking for an excuse to happen even if the reason has to be invented

and had the truck slowed down to 10mph to bait the riders into passing?  would they still have "also" been at fault?

would they have been at fault if they thought the gubnubbit was slowing to let them pass?

as someone mentioned on that other board...does a woman deserve to be raped because someone decided "she was asking for it?"

you should use your best judgement....but even then there is no guarantee that a warped, loaded psycho won't decide you need to be punished

for some real or imagined offense

I am glad the DA has a clear head on who's the deadly menace in this movie



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« Reply #55 on: May 27, 2011, 02:24:48 PM »

You guys still think that there's a defense for the psycho. There isn't and no one here is saying that he's innocent. We are trying to point out that the riders were also at fault. The problem here is that you guys are putting youself in the rider's shoes and defending them because this is most likely how you would be riding/reacting to the psycho. Cooler heads did not prevail. Following the track because you have a sense of "lets get this guy" is not cooler heads. Confronting the psycho is not cooler heads. Again, if you choose to act like an asshole, don't be surprised if end up having to deal with others like you.
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« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2011, 02:37:24 PM »

I assume that they are out to kill me, but I try not to put myself into a situation where it's easier for them to do so.

I agree with this statement whole heartedly.

Don't detract from what Carlos is trying to say here. Carlos, please correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't want to put words in your mouth, but what you're saying is that sure you like to ride and all, but (like me) you're just not willing to go the 'extra' distance to put yourself in harms what when it's really not warranted or worth it.

You guys still think that there's a defense for the psycho. There isn't and no one here is saying that he's innocent. We are trying to point out that the riders were also at fault. The problem here is that you guys are putting youself in the rider's shoes and defending them because this is most likely how you would be riding/reacting to the psycho. Cooler heads did not prevail. Following the track because you have a sense of "lets get this guy" is not cooler heads. Confronting the psycho is not cooler heads. Again, if you choose to act like an asshole, don't be surprised if end up having to deal with others like you.


I'm with you all the way on this too.  waytogo



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« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2011, 02:41:00 PM »

The tailing rider on the 13x forum said the road is a 55mph, and they weren't going more than 65mph. That doesn't seem too out of order on a clear, sunny day.
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« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2011, 04:11:12 PM »

bottom line

everyone in that video is an asshole


I'm goin' with that.
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« Reply #59 on: May 27, 2011, 04:14:02 PM »

In KY:



MARKINGS: COLORS, PATTERNS, MEANING

              DO NOT PASS

When there are double solid yellow lines.



ROAD MARKINGS: CROSSING A SOLID DOUBLE YELLOW LINE TO TURN LEFT

It's okay to cross a double yellow line to turn left. YOU CANNOT cross a double yellow line to pass another vehicle.


You can in VT. waytogo

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