Sharing Power Commander Custom Maps?

[dubbedown]

I'm considering a PC3 (was great on my previous bike) but I've read so so reviews for the S2R. Apparently it's a given that one should get a custome tune if they plan on buying a PC3. I have no problem shelling the $ for a custome tune but unfortunately there are no good shops in my area. The few I found on PC's website got mixed reviews...

So my question is, for those who have gotten their bikes custom tuned, would you be willing to share your map? Is that even allowed?  If not, I may just go with the DP ecu seeing how PC3 + custom dyno tune is more than the DP ecu..

[uglyducky]

that's a good question for the professional wrenchers on here.  i just had my bike dynoed (full arrows and pciii) and it runs INSANE.  i'd be happy to share the map but 1. i don't have it  2. no idea if i did if that would piss off the guy that spent 6 hours creating it (although it was on my dime).  not sure what the protocol is for that . . .

[Heath]

I don't see why it would not be allowed.  The owner paid to have the map done for them.  I would think that gives them the right to share it.  Now though, if someone shelled out $$$ to get it done why would they want to share it.  Nice guy/girl maybe?

Would you really want someone else's custom map?  I mean unless your set up is EXACTLY the same, it probably won't run right.

I ran a open airbox, full arrow exhaust map on my bike.  My bike has open airbox, DP midpipe, race Termi slip ons.  Similar set up, not the same.  Bike didn't run good at all.   I had a custom map done and bike runs damn near perfect now.


uglyducky - You have the map you just need to pull it off the Power Commander.  Probably a good idea to do anyways so you have a backup if anything goes wrong with your Power Commander.

[Veloce-Fino]

I don't see why it would not be allowed.  The owner paid to have the map done for them.  I would think that gives them the right to share it.  Now though, if someone shelled out $$$ to get it done why would they want to share it.  Nice guy/girl maybe?

You should talk to Sony/Apple...and a laundry list of others that believe even though you own the product they own the rights to it.

i.e. jailbreaking apple software/playstation firmware. <- things I should be able to do with my product, but will certainly get you sued in todays system.


I agree though, should be able to share your maps. Lots of people on here have similar/same setups. Could work well.

[DarkStaR]

I got a custom map for an 05 s2r800 w/ spark exhaust + spark udder eliminator + open box + light flywheel.

I don't recall any agreement being presented stating I can't share a map I had paid for to have made or made myself.

[TJR178]

Hey uglyducky,

What type of airbox are you running?

[dubbedown]

I got a custom map for an 05 s2r800 w/ spark exhaust + spark udder eliminator + open box + light flywheel.

I don't recall any agreement being presented stating I can't share a map I had paid for to have made or made myself.

Thanks, I guess my question was really two-fold, 1) is it allowed (whether that's regulated by moderators here), or even a higher power and 2) would the owner be opposed?

Like I said I don't mind spending the dime, it's just there are no good tuners around me. Thus it might even help the owner to share his map b/c I'd be willing to subsidize his cost. I understand that every bike IS different but I think it's safe to also say that most of us do the same / similar mods.

If you or anyone is willing please let me know. I plan on making a decision of DP ecu vs PC 3 very shortly, and unless someone is willing to share it looks like I'll be going the DP route. My specs: 06 S2R 800 with Marving pipe, aftermarket slip-ons, and open air box (using stock paper filter).

[DarkStaR]

Thanks, I guess my question was really two-fold, 1) is it allowed (whether that's regulated by moderators here), or even a higher power and 2) would the owner be opposed?

Like I said I don't mind spending the dime, it's just there are no good tuners around me. Thus it might even help the owner to share his map b/c I'd be willing to subsidize his cost. I understand that every bike IS different but I think it's safe to also say that most of us do the same / similar mods.

If you or anyone is willing please let me know. I plan on making a decision of DP ecu vs PC 3 very shortly, and unless someone is willing to share it looks like I'll be going the DP route. My specs: 06 S2R 800 with Marving pipe, aftermarket slip-ons, and open air box (using stock paper filter).

PM me your email addy, and I'll let you try mine out if you want.  We've/I've shared maps here in the past, and it hasn't been an issue.

On a non-02 bike, unless the DP ECU does something other than a new map such as raise the redline, the PC3 should yield better results with a proper map.

The guy that use do my maps ran a DP ecu and a PC3 on his 749.  The DP ECU was just there for the higher redline.

[dubbedown]

PM me your email addy, and I'll let you try mine out if you want.  We've/I've shared maps here in the past, and it hasn't been an issue.

On a non-02 bike, unless the DP ECU does something other than a new map such as raise the redline, the PS3 should yield better results with a proper map.

The guy that use do my maps ran a DP ecu and a PC3 on his 749.  The DP ECU was just there for the higher redline.

Very cool of you. Seems like we have same mods minus the flywheel. Speaking of flywheel, which do you have? How do you like it?

Obviously I havent gotten my PC yet but this made my decision easier! I'll surely paypal you after I've gotten myself set up...

[DarkStaR]

Very cool of you. Seems like we have same mods minus the flywheel. Speaking of flywheel, which do you have? How do you like it?

Obviously I havent gotten my PC yet but this made my decision easier! I'll surely paypal you after I've gotten myself set up...

Sent!

I got the Nichol's flywheel. I like it. Revs like a bat outta hell.  Would I do it again...not too sure.  I like the idea of a lightened steel piece being more durable, but the Nichol's piece is just so light.  One thing that sold me on the Nichol's is that they're local, and that's who does any work on the bike that I'm too lazy to do.

[dubbedown]

Thanks, got your email. Will hit you back as soon as I get my stuff in order. Need to determine which slip-ons, Quat D or Arrow... then order/install the PC3.

[671M900]

You should talk to Sony/Apple...and a laundry list of others that believe even though you own the product they own the rights to it.

i.e. jailbreaking apple software/playstation firmware. <- things I should be able to do with my product, but will certainly get you sued in todays system.


I agree though, should be able to share your maps. Lots of people on here have similar/same setups. Could work well.

Umm. No, jailbreaking your iphone is legal. As declared by US courts. Just like you can modify your bike. However, should you use your jailbroken PS3 to download and play pirated games, it's illegal. Just like should you use your bike, modified or not, to commit a crime.

Also, don't expect apple/sony/ducati to cover anything you've touched/modified.

As long as you don't sue Dynojet when your bike gets damaged because you  made an improper tune, you can do whatever you want with the maps, I'm sure. It's like saying I can't share pictures I've made with ms paint, or you can't back up and save anything ever recorded on  your answering machine.

[uglyducky]

Hey uglyducky,

What type of airbox are you running?

open box with K&N.  and i'm happy to share my map with anyone that wants it if you guys can walk me through how the hell i access it.  2005 S4R with full arrows, PCIII, and open box.  Runs like a pissed off dragon right now, but a contained, pissed off dragon.  happy to pass it along . . .

[Speeddog]

open box with K&N.  and i'm happy to share my map with anyone that wants it if you guys can walk me through how the hell i access it.  2005 S4R with full arrows, PCIII, and open box.  Runs like a pissed off dragon right now, but a contained, pissed off dragon.  happy to pass it along . . .

Next time you're in, I can get the map off of it. 

[TJR178]

I would LOVE to have that map UG (and Speeddog).  I'm going to be opening up my airbox soon.  Once I do that, I'll have the exact set-up that you have.  Right now my airbox is closed, so I'm running the map that you can get from Dynojet's website.

Thanks guys!