New monster tank swelling

Started by The Bearded Duc, June 14, 2011, 06:21:31 PM

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iRam

It turns out that my tank is just missing a bolt on the left mounting bracket. No swelling yet.
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Raux

#16
there are two rubber mounts for the tank on the sides
only the one on the right should have a bolt. that's the way it came from the factory.
I assume it's to allow some flex.
if you look at the rubber they are different for the sides also, the left is a single piece not needed a bolt, the right is a two piece needed a bolt to stay on.


edit: just spoke to a Ducati source- single bolt is to meet crash worthiness, otherwise not needed. he suggested putting on the left side one only and switch the rubber with it (ie two piece with the bolt, single piece without the bolt)

jerryz

The problem is now spreading in europe and asia, Ducati should go back to using steel tanks instead as none of my Older pre 2003 Duactis have this problem

Bishamon

Quote from: jerryz on June 18, 2011, 09:35:56 AM
The problem is now spreading in europe and asia, Ducati should go back to using steel tanks instead as none of my Older pre 2003 Duactis have this problem

Ethanol's affinity for water can cause corrosion in steel tanks, and ethanol is corrosive to aluminum.  It also dissolves fiberglass.

If we could just get rid of ethanol, everything would be fine.
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jerryz

i know of several new Ducatis in UK where the gas is only 5% Ethanol same as Germany  and they have swelling tanks , i have seen the problem in Thailand on 5 bukes an the gasohol here is 5% ,

The gasoline companies and governments in Europe want to up the ethanol content to 10% so the problem will only get worse ,,, a little rust in tanks from water is easier to fix than warping plastic .

also ethanol is causing massive price inflation in food as farmer take agricultural food products out of the food chain to make fuel instead its an evil thing all round .

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hillbillypolack

Quote from: jerryz on June 18, 2011, 09:35:56 AM
The problem is now spreading in europe and asia, Ducati should go back to using steel tanks instead as none of my Older pre 2003 Duactis have this problem

Neat!  Ducati sure as hell shot themselves in the foot on this one. Any other OEM would have made tanks to meet the fuel components of a specific region. Ducati, well, not so much. Then, fight a lawsuit that points out that oversight.

So, their hole keeps getting deeper it seems. Karma.

This might sound extreme, but I see this financially making a big dent in the Company. Or worse. And it certainly won't do much to promote loyalty and returning buyers. No matter how great the bikes look.

ducatiz

Quote from: jerryz on June 18, 2011, 09:35:56 AM
The problem is now spreading in europe and asia, Ducati should go back to using steel tanks instead as none of my Older pre 2003 Duactis have this problem

Can you document this?  I've been keeping track by posting on several boards in Italy and UK, but that's the extent of my language abilities.
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Statler

technical tank talk = good for riding community.

ethanol political talk = locked threads.

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The Bearded Duc

Quote from: Statler on June 19, 2011, 10:59:52 AM
technical tank talk = good for riding community.

ethanol political talk = locked threads.



Yeah, c'mon guys don't get my thread locked.

I started this topic because I wanted information on possible issues, including tank swelling, with the new monsters. I couldn't care less where the farmer's corn is going.

If the tank material hasn't been fixed yet than that answers that question. Does anyone else have any other problems or praises for the new monsters?
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hillbillypolack

Then I really hate to point out the obvious, but there is a sticky at the top of this forum about your issue specifically.  And, there's another thread that's coming in over 100 pages to date.

So . . . if you have any questions or concerns, you might see some that might have been answered. .

For the newer model Monsters, I honestly don't yet know.  Perhaps because they haven't been in service as long.  But if they are made of the same material.  Well, you can hypothesize from there.

The Bearded Duc

Quote from: hillbillypolack on June 19, 2011, 07:44:22 PM
Then I really hate to point out the obvious, but there is a sticky at the top of this forum about your issue specifically.  And, there's another thread that's coming in over 100 pages to date.

So . . . if you have any questions or concerns, you might see some that might have been answered. .

For the newer model Monsters, I honestly don't yet know.  Perhaps because they haven't been in service as long.  But if they are made of the same material.  Well, you can hypothesize from there.

I'm already aware of the "plastic tank problems" thread.

And the "new" monsters have been in service for 3 years already, plenty of time for things to go wrong if they're gonna.
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northerncalguy

With respect to the tank, I don't see crazy swelling like some of the posts in the other tank threads. What I've noticed is that it's slightly left of center and just beneath the top tank piece, I see some exposed edges of the tank panels right below the circular portion of that top tank piece. Hard to describe, I'll take pix later. I am going to the dealer today to have a quick check up will report back what I hear.

Other than that the performs awesome mechanically and looks amazing, the tank shouldn't stop you from buying, IMHO.