powered by:
December 24, 2024, 06:53:43 PM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
:
Welcome to the DMF
Home
Help
Search
Login
Register
Discussion Boards
Introduce Yourself
FAQs and Policies
General Monster Forum
Remembering our friends...in Memorium
Riding Techniques
Tutorials
Tech
Accessories & Mods
Gear
Racing & Trackdays
Stolen Motorcycles
No Moto Content
Board Tech Issues
Local Club Boards
BOMb
RCP
Sponsors
Valley Desmo Service
California Cycleworks
MotorcycleGear.Com
Monsterparts
Minor Sponsor Board
Sponsor Info
Flea Market
Monsters for Sale
Monsters Wanted
Other Bikes
Parts for Sale
Parts Wanted
Gear for Sale
Misc for Sale/Wanted
Ducati Monster Forum
>
Moto Board
>
Racing & Trackdays
>
This isn't good
Pages: [
1
]
2
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: This isn't good (Read 5232 times)
fastwin
She pointed and laughed at my
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 4650
tap, rack, bang
This isn't good
«
on:
July 11, 2011, 04:04:06 PM »
Wow. Out of nowhere.
http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2011/07/11/vir-cancelled-ama-pro-road-racing-eight-rounds/
I'm thinking breach of contract here. Like the article says the AMA wouldn't have had it on the schedule if the ink wasn't dry.
More...
http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2011/07/11/atlas-comments-on-vir-cancellation/
«
Last Edit: July 11, 2011, 04:14:38 PM by fastwin
»
Logged
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!
I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!
The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.
bdfinally
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 1760
Re: This isn't good
«
Reply #1 on:
July 11, 2011, 04:30:22 PM »
I'm truly bummed. I've been there every year since they started. I grew up in the area and attended WERA races when they were actually ERA races back at the original track. The current management is notorious for being difficult to deal with. I've heard that personally from people running beverage vending to bike dealers at the track. I'm afraid it's going to be more that a single missed year before AMA shows up there again. Damn!
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=45247
Logged
The tyranny of the rat race is not yet final...HST
fastwin
She pointed and laughed at my
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 4650
tap, rack, bang
Re: This isn't good
«
Reply #2 on:
July 12, 2011, 05:14:01 AM »
Yep, I'm thinking VIR shot themselves in both feet with that little stunt. I don't see AMA/DMG having anything else to do with them. Expect maybe in a court of law! They seriously have messed up the season for all the classes. Obviously every rider and team was counting on all the races on the schedule being run. AMA will have to do some hard thinking real quick to come up with a do-able plan to make up for VIR going bye bye. Not cool.
Logged
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!
I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!
The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.
avizpls
TECH
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 529
Re: This isn't good
«
Reply #3 on:
July 12, 2011, 05:26:08 AM »
AMA+
VIR-never to get a penny from me. And I really wanted to ride that track next season.
Logged
#11
mitt
Flounder-Administrator
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 4378
2003 M1000s
Re: This isn't good
«
Reply #4 on:
July 12, 2011, 09:02:10 AM »
What would provoke a track to do this? As a series boss, I would never sign anything with a track that did this to a series 1 month before the race...
mitt
Logged
homepage
http://sites.google.com/site/mittelstadtc/
ducatiz
No trellis. no desmo. = Not Ducati.
Post Whore
Offline
Posts: 15590
Re: This isn't good
«
Reply #5 on:
July 12, 2011, 09:08:49 AM »
very strange.. interested to see what comes out of this
Logged
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!
Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the air—these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.
gm2
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 5097
Re: This isn't good
«
Reply #6 on:
July 12, 2011, 09:17:00 AM »
not necessarily a good reason, but there's got to be a reason. and it for sure has to do with $$.
Logged
Like this is the racing, no?
Spidey
Crashin' mofo
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 4842
Re: This isn't good
«
Reply #7 on:
July 12, 2011, 09:49:36 AM »
I just don't get it.
Logged
Occasionally AFM #702 My stuff: The M1000SS, a mashed r6, Vino 125, the Blonde, some rugrats, yuppie cage, child molester van, bourbon.
bdfinally
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 1760
Re: This isn't good
«
Reply #8 on:
July 12, 2011, 11:41:35 AM »
I don't think anyone gets it yet. There's talk of adding a 3rd race to the NJMP w/e, but one of their principals is the guy behind VIR
http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/ama-sbk-david-atlas-on-vir-cancellation-options
Logged
The tyranny of the rat race is not yet final...HST
Spidey
Crashin' mofo
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 4842
Re: This isn't good
«
Reply #9 on:
July 12, 2011, 12:27:03 PM »
Quote from: bdfinally on July 12, 2011, 11:41:35 AM
http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/ama-sbk-david-atlas-on-vir-cancellation-options
I hate business-speak. That was a two page interview in which he didn't say a single thing. I thought only lawyers did that shit.
Logged
Occasionally AFM #702 My stuff: The M1000SS, a mashed r6, Vino 125, the Blonde, some rugrats, yuppie cage, child molester van, bourbon.
bdfinally
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 1760
Re: This isn't good
«
Reply #10 on:
July 12, 2011, 01:35:24 PM »
Yep, but it was a speedtv interview...Toby & Jules might have been a little more forceful in getting to the bottom of things.
Logged
The tyranny of the rat race is not yet final...HST
fastwin
She pointed and laughed at my
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 4650
tap, rack, bang
Re: This isn't good
«
Reply #11 on:
July 12, 2011, 03:54:47 PM »
All I see is total bullshit. And I don't see where AMA/DMG did anything wrong. I'd be the first to throw stones but I just don't see it. Long time venue for the series, signed contract, dried ink, schedule has been out there for all to see for months and VIR pulls this bullshit? I'm not getting it.
Makes no sense. Like what the hell couldn't they work out that was so big a deal that VIR says screw you, we're done? And takes the chance of being drug into court over breach of contract? What leg do they think they have to stand on? It potentially tosses all the class championships into turmoil. Again, hopefully AMA/DMG will come up with something to satisfy the teams and riders as well as their contract with Speed TV.
Logged
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!
I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!
The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.
zooom
wishing I had some colorful enough tights for my
Post Whore
Offline
Posts: 11905
when your gas is natural and has a name...
Re: This isn't good
«
Reply #12 on:
July 12, 2011, 03:57:29 PM »
there HAS to be something behind this decision...
Logged
99 Cagiva Gran Canyon-"FOR SALE", PM for details.
98 Monster 900(trackpregnant dog-soon to be made my Fiancee's upgrade streetbike)
2010 KTM 990 SM-T
ducatiz
No trellis. no desmo. = Not Ducati.
Post Whore
Offline
Posts: 15590
Re: This isn't good
«
Reply #13 on:
July 12, 2011, 04:32:26 PM »
Once again it sounds like DMG is full of it:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23634519/VIR%20Statement.pdf
...apparently no "signed contract."
Quote
"VIR has received a number of inquiries and expressions of disappointment regarding
the lack of a 2011 AMA Pro Racing event at VIR. As with any disagreement, there are
two sides to every story. We want to make it clear that the decision was not one-sided,
as David Atlas' remarks have implied, and that VIR made numerous proposals to AMA
Pro Racing to keep this event on schedule. Due to our 10 year history with this
premiere event, we are as disappointed by this outcome as most of those we have
heard from.
VIR has worked hard to bring the event to fruition for months. Despite requests by VIR
beginning in December 2010, AMA Pro Racing did not deliver its proposed contract for
the 2011 event to VIR until early June 2011. Resulting discussions made it apparent
that insufficient time remained to negotiate the new terms in the proposed contract and,
if agreement were reached, to plan, promote and conduct the event in a professional
manner.
In an effort to preserve the date, VIR went to extraordinary lengths to reach an
alternative agreement with AMA Pro Racing, which AMA Pro Racing chose to reject.
Given these circumstances, we had no choice but to take the date off the calendar and
notify the public promptly."
Logged
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!
Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the air—these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.
mitt
Flounder-Administrator
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 4378
2003 M1000s
Re: This isn't good
«
Reply #14 on:
July 12, 2011, 06:25:18 PM »
Quote from: ducatiz on July 12, 2011, 04:32:26 PM
Once again it sounds like DMG is full of it:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23634519/VIR%20Statement.pdf
...apparently no "signed contract."
Based on AMA/DMG recent history, I immediately figured it was them and not VIR (the truth is probably both of them to some %). It is always the guilty that is the first one to go public with a defense, which it seemed like DMG did.
mitt
Logged
homepage
http://sites.google.com/site/mittelstadtc/
Pages: [
1
]
2
Go Up
Print
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
Introductions
-----------------------------
=> Introduce Yourself
=> FAQs and Board Policies
-----------------------------
Moto Board
-----------------------------
=> General Monster Forum
=> In Memorium...Remembering our Friends
=> Riding Techniques
=> Tutorials
=> Tech
=> Accessories & Mods
=> Gear
=> Racing & Trackdays
=> Stolen Motorcycles
=> Random Cool Pics
-----------------------------
Kitchen Sink
-----------------------------
=> No Moto Content
===> Board Suggestions
===> Fixed Board Issues
=> Stella's Pop
-----------------------------
DMF Sponsors
-----------------------------
=> Valley Desmo Service
=> Ca-Cycleworks
=> New Enough.Com
=> Monsterparts
=> Minor Sponsors
=> Misc Info
-----------------------------
Local Clubs
-----------------------------
=> Monster Women
=> Ducati MOB
=> SoCal Monsters
=> CAM
=> OZ monsters
=> NorthWest
=> NEMHA
=> NYMMC
=> MHM
=> SoCO DOG
=> DFWM
=> MADDOG
=> MOCHA
=> THCM
=> AZDRA
=> M-ROC
=> Central Cal Monsters
=> DOCSF
=> MCMC
=> DDCM
=> DOCTOR
=> Hoosier Hooligans
=> OMHA
=> DOCIA
=> Rising Sun Ducatis
=> MCM
=> NMMR
=> MIA
=> Desmotropic
=> COW
=> MOTH
=> DesmOK
=> Bayou Country Ducati Riders
=> DeVal Mostro
=> Coastal Ducati Club
-----------------------------
Configurators and Calculators
-----------------------------
=> Valve Shim Calculator
Loading...
SimplePortal 2.1.1