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Real Recognize Real

July 20, 2011, 02:16:18 PM
I need to replace both modules since they were the cause of the lack of spark. Are there after market options or is Ducati NA the only source for them?
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July 20, 2011, 06:05:14 PM
ignitech(or similar), dp modules, or OEM.

that's about it. used on ebay the oem modules are usually $150-$200 for the pair. sometimes you can find a bargin though
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July 20, 2011, 09:01:55 PM
OK. I see that the dp modules are $233 each on the DNA website. Can they be had cheaper somewhere else? How much do the oems cost typically?
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July 20, 2011, 09:05:02 PM
There are 3 different DP modules, depending on the curve you want.

You can poke around on fleabay.

The Ignitech runs about â,¬120 plus shipping. 
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July 20, 2011, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on July 20, 2011, 09:05:02 PM
There are 3 different DP modules, depending on the curve you want.

You can poke around on fleabay.

The Ignitech runs about â,¬120 plus shipping. 

I saw your post in the CAM section about ordering the ignitech system. My bike is currently at ducpond and they told me they are trying to source ignitor boxe without spending n arm and a leg for the OEM modules.
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July 21, 2011, 03:36:53 AM
Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

ducatiz

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July 21, 2011, 05:44:54 AM
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#8
July 21, 2011, 10:07:55 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on July 21, 2011, 05:44:54 AM
i've seen those, but what curve do they have? 

Please bear with me as I ask the following questions. I'm trying to understand the purpose of these modules.

1) Do these modules control the firing of the coil, ie ot advances or retards ignition "firing"
2) If I choose  a module(DP) that has a different curve than the OEM unit, is it a "plug-n-play" scenario or should other adjustments be made to the bike.
3) Can these modules be by-passed, ie can the motorcycle run w/out ignitor boxes
4) What are common causes of failure for ignitor boxes

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July 21, 2011, 11:27:42 AM
Quote from: gwjcat on July 21, 2011, 10:07:55 AM
Please bear with me as I ask the following questions. I'm trying to understand the purpose of these modules.

1) Do these modules control the firing of the coil, ie ot advances or retards ignition "firing"
2) If I choose  a module(DP) that has a different curve than the OEM unit, is it a "plug-n-play" scenario or should other adjustments be made to the bike.
3) Can these modules be by-passed, ie can the motorcycle run w/out ignitor boxes
4) What are common causes of failure for ignitor boxes



1.  Yes.
2.  More or less plug and play, but if you pick something that has a hotter curve than the original, you should probably tune accordingly.
3.  No.
4.  Dropping them.  Age.  Electrical surge.  Crappy original build.
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Howie

#10
July 21, 2011, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on July 21, 2011, 05:44:54 AM
i've seen those, but what curve do they have? 

No curve is published.  They are supposed to be replacements, not "hot rod" parts.

ducatiz

#11
July 21, 2011, 01:05:53 PM
I bet you could ask them and the would tell. 
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#12
July 21, 2011, 06:00:01 PM
Ive used Electrexworld  for these on 97M900. Slightly different resistance (higher if I remember) but no issues and great price and service.
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#13
July 22, 2011, 08:18:06 AM
Quote from: gwjcat on July 21, 2011, 10:07:55 AM
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4) What are common causes of failure for ignitor boxes


I've seen a really high correlation between loose battery connections and dead ignitors.
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July 23, 2011, 04:46:42 AM
Quote from: Speeddog on July 22, 2011, 08:18:06 AM
I've seen a really high correlation between loose battery connections and dead ignitors.
I saw a bike destroy every box installed due to a missing engine/frame ground.
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