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Greg
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Re: Streetfighter 848 & 1198
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Reply #105 on:
September 12, 2011, 04:01:45 PM »
Quote from: EvilSteve on September 12, 2011, 02:48:12 PM
I was under the impression that the 11º motor was wet clutch only. Hope I'm wrong, love the dry clutch. It also doesn't appear to have ABS which will make some happy but there was mention of DTC. DTC and no ABS makes no sense because I think they use the same sensors?
I wonder how much my wife would hate me if I traded my M1100EVO on a dark SF848...
As far as electronics on bikes go, I'm in no position to tell people they can't dislike them, just haven't heard a logical argument against them. The breaking down thing is just code for not liking them. Every EFI motor has an ECU so you're kinda boned no matter what.
From everything I've read it's going to be a wet clutch. One big plus will be the reduced service intervals, which will now be every 15,000 miles. Your logic on the ABS makes sense to me, especially as it seems the whole front suspension/brake package is lifted from the M1100, and some of the press states it will have DTC, however the lack of any mention of ABS does not bode well but I'll be keeping my fingers crossed anyway.
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Re: Streetfighter 848 & 1198
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September 12, 2011, 04:18:54 PM »
This is very, very interesting! I can't wait to see one in the dealership and test ride one! Anyone have any news on the suspension?
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thought
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Re: Streetfighter 848 & 1198
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September 12, 2011, 04:20:40 PM »
Quote from: EvilSteve on September 12, 2011, 02:48:12 PM
I was under the impression that the 11º motor was wet clutch only. Hope I'm wrong, love the dry clutch. It also doesn't appear to have ABS which will make some happy but there was mention of DTC. DTC and no ABS makes no sense because I think they use the same sensors?
but then again, the sfs and the 1198 have dtc, but no abs.
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EvilSteve
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Re: Streetfighter 848 & 1198
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September 12, 2011, 06:07:55 PM »
Fair point. It's easy to tell, unless they have moved the servo then the brake lines should be running up under the right hand side of the tank. There'd also be the speed sensor on the left side front hub which I don't see. I guess DTC without ABS is not strange.
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Re: Streetfighter 848 & 1198
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September 12, 2011, 08:35:53 PM »
so much electronics on bikes these days... make people think they are better then they really are and allows them to ride faster than they are capable of actually riding safely. That being said... LOL... it does have DTC, maybe have abs, and my have a dry clutch... only thing keeping me on the fence is that if it goes the same direction as the 848 SB, and has garbage suspension. It is still a wise decision for Ducati to get back into that segment because stepping up to a 1098,1198 is pretty intimidating to someone who has been riding a 600~ish cc monster
Time will tell....
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Re: Streetfighter 848 & 1198
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September 13, 2011, 05:38:03 AM »
Any ideas on dimensions yet? Thinking it'll still be around 33" seat height?
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Re: Streetfighter 848 & 1198
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September 13, 2011, 06:29:11 AM »
How do these adjustable Marzzochi units compare to the Showa's? Can they be tuned (valve replacements) like the Showas, or are you stuck with just replacing the spring? Are they dissimilar units from the 848 Evo SBK?
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duclvr
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September 13, 2011, 06:55:11 AM »
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Available in North America in early 2012, the new fighter is dressed in red for Ducati traditionalists, while yellow makes a return for mid-range purists and
"dark stealth"
provides a matte-black reminder of the Streetfighter's aggressive image.
Looks like they are making a dark version.
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Greg
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September 13, 2011, 12:27:42 PM »
Local dealer confirms no ABS. He did mention that the bars have been raised 20mm and the ergonomics have generally been tweaked to improve comfort.
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thought
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Re: Streetfighter 848 & 1198
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September 13, 2011, 01:08:42 PM »
Quote from: csorin on September 13, 2011, 06:29:11 AM
How do these adjustable Marzzochi units compare to the Showa's? Can they be tuned (valve replacements) like the Showas, or are you stuck with just replacing the spring? Are they dissimilar units from the 848 Evo SBK?
no idea, but i'm guessing that it should be a drop in upgrade to go to 848/1098/1198/SF/SFS forks for the bike if those marz forks turn out to be crap.
and that's good to hear about those ergos... this bike is sincerely becoming way too tempting now
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Re: Streetfighter 848 & 1198
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September 13, 2011, 07:34:23 PM »
Phew! DTC but no ABS!
I was getting worried I should have waited, and spent the extra $500 for this new 848SF vs the Monster Evo I just picked up!
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September 14, 2011, 09:44:25 AM »
Quote from: thought on September 13, 2011, 01:08:42 PM
no idea, but i'm guessing that it should be a drop in upgrade to go to 848/1098/1198/SF/SFS forks for the bike if those marz forks turn out to be crap.
As long as the diameters are the same. It took some work to get SBK forks into my Monster. Anyone know what the diameters on the 1100 Evo forks are? Different or same as the current SBK's?
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Re: Streetfighter 848 & 1198
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September 14, 2011, 03:06:14 PM »
Just got back from my dealer, hes going to some show in the states very soon and told me to stop by next tuesday for all the specs/info on the 848.
Said hes gonna see it hands on and all that good stuff. Will post any info I get on here if I happen to get it before anyone else
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Re: Streetfighter 848 & 1198
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September 15, 2011, 11:47:07 AM »
ashonbikes.com says they will have a full test on the sf848 on sept 30th. he's a really good reviewer and i'm looking forward to seeing what he says about it.
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Re: Streetfighter 848 & 1198
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September 15, 2011, 05:11:10 PM »
The sf848 has my attention! I hope it has fully adjustable suspension. This could be my next bike.
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