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Re: Celebrities on Ducati's
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July 07, 2013, 12:59:38 PM »
Quote from: Privateer on July 06, 2013, 04:23:13 PM
for all the 'ride your own ride' I hear everywhere, there's an equal amount of judgmental bullshit.
LOL....true.
Wear what you want. Riding a motorcycle is dangerous, how much risk are you willing to take!?
I ride to and from getting am coffee....in sunglasses & iphone (2 miles) in my neighborhood.
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July 07, 2013, 04:30:32 PM »
Quote from: Dry Martini on July 06, 2013, 10:06:48 AM
Davida meeting Euro standards tells me nothing about SDRider's opinion on that type of helmet.
It's an open face helmet.
I'm not the best looking guy on the planet but I don't really want my chin scraped off in an accident either. So, because I actually log thousands of miles of riding a year, I wear a full face helmet. I guess if he's just doing press photos with his GF on the back then he's good.
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July 07, 2013, 06:17:04 PM »
Personally I think his GF is wearing way too much gear.
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Re: Celebrities on Ducati's
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Quote from: Privateer on July 06, 2013, 04:23:13 PM
for all the 'ride your own ride' I hear everywhere, there's an equal amount of judgmental bullshit.
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Quote from: SDRider on July 07, 2013, 04:30:32 PM
It's an open face helmet.
<snip> So, because I actually log thousands of miles of riding a year, I wear a full face helmet.
And I ride thousands of miles a year (down from 10's of thousands a year) and have so for hundreds of thousands of miles WEARING AN OPEN FACE HELMET.
Jebuzfrickingkeyrist why do you think you are so smart or special?
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July 09, 2013, 11:29:32 AM »
My decision to wear a full face helmet is reaffirmed every time a huge bug or small rock slams into my chin bar at 80 MPH. I always think, "Damn, that would hurt like hell if I was wearing one of those beanie helmets."
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sometimes it feels like rain here in florida when riding through a swarm of flying insects.
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Quote from: hbliam on July 09, 2013, 11:29:32 AM
My decision to wear a full face helmet is reaffirmed every time a huge bug or small rock slams into my chin bar at 80 MPH. I always think, "Damn, that would hurt like hell if I was wearing one of those beanie helmets."
+1
I've also crashed twice where my face shield took some damage. Nothing terrible, but would have been had it been my skin. Sure, those were racing crashes...but when you start tumbling, all bets are off on what hits the ground.
I have more of a problem with his skinny jeans than his helmet though!
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July 09, 2013, 11:51:16 AM »
Quote from: hbliam on July 09, 2013, 11:29:32 AM
My decision to wear a full face helmet is reaffirmed every time a huge bug or small rock slams into my chin bar at 80 MPH. I always think, "Damn, that would hurt like hell if I was wearing one of those beanie helmets."
Which is totally fine, and yes, sometimes a big or small rock DOES HURT, but it's not a particularly big deal.
I've got an Arai Quantum which I've worn on and off (mostly winter and rain riding), but most days I prefer my AGV 3/4 (I do have a flip down visor on that which helps with unexpected rain or say a truck kicking up debris for a few miles) or my HJC 3/4.
But these days I don't spend a lot of time at 80 mph on any of our rides...
Oh, and of the THREE TIMES I've crashed in my decades of riding my helmets have NEVER TOUCHED THE GROUND. That's not to say that it can't happen and I DO ALWAYS WERE ONE, but I'm pointing out odds. Hell, just look at the hurt report and you'll see odds are that in an accident when the helmet does hit something it will likely NOT be the face or chin.
Again, not saying it can't or won't happen, just that it's a calculated risk. You guys may decide to take more or less risks than I do, but I'm not gonna second guess your decisions. They may involve more speed, or more traffic, or ______________, but those are your calls.
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Re: Celebrities on Ducati's
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Quote from: Kev M on July 09, 2013, 11:51:16 AM
Hell, just look at the hurt report and you'll see odds are that in an accident when the helmet does hit something it will likely NOT be the face or chin.
Actually that's not what it says at all. It says your chin is the most likely place to impact. 19.4% of the time for the right side and 15.2% of the time for the left. The face is quite a bit lower, between 4% and 6% of the time, but still in the mid-range. The crown of your head and temples are the least likely place to impact.
To each their own...isn't my face!
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Yeah, I used to ride with a guy whose friend lost half of his face in a wreck and did not die right away. That pretty much solidified my full face helmet wearin'. That said, I just moved my bike into our parking garage due to a storm at work, and it is oh so nice riding free like that... I totally understand not wanting to wear a full face helmet.
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Quote from: Triple J on July 09, 2013, 12:47:24 PM
Actually that's not what it says at all. It says your chin is the most likely place to impact. 19.4% of the time for the right side and 15.2% of the time for the left. The face is quite a bit lower, between 4% and 6% of the time, but still in the mid-range. The crown of your head and temples are the least likely place to impact.
I disagree, it says the chin will only strike in 34.6% of the time meaning that 65.4% of the time it won't - i.e. that impacts, IF THEY OCCUR, will occur elsewhere.
And since those statistics add up to 100% they are NOT counting times when the helmet doesn't hit anything at all (like my 3 crashes).
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According to that graphic if you crash, and your head connects with pavement: you have a 35% chance of it being your jaw. Those are pretty scary odds IMO.
That being said I'm a SOTGMOTT guy. I'll pop on a pair of goggles to go a few blocks for coffee, but if I'm going on the freeway I'll wear full face helmet and jacket. Only on a long tour will I wear gloves and very rarely will I wear special pants.
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July 10, 2013, 07:36:17 AM »
Quote from: Kev M on July 10, 2013, 04:15:12 AM
I disagree, it says the chin will only strike in 34.6% of the time meaning that 65.4% of the time it won't - i.e. that impacts, IF THEY OCCUR, will occur elsewhere.
And since those statistics add up to 100% they are NOT counting times when the helmet doesn't hit anything at all (like my 3 crashes).
You need to re-read the Hurt report. It is absolutely in favor of full face helmets. Read all the notes, including more then just the helmet section. Your argument, to say that a 35% chance of impacting your face/chin isn't concerning, is laughable. That's some shit odds no matter how you look at it.
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Re: Celebrities on Ducati's
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Quote from: Kev M on July 10, 2013, 04:15:12 AM
I disagree, it says the chin will only strike in 34.6% of the time meaning that 65.4% of the time it won't - i.e. that impacts, IF THEY OCCUR, will occur elsewhere.
if you include the visor area and the small areas to the left and right of the visor it's a whopping 44.4% chance those areas will hit, if your noggin hits the pave. 44.4 is creeping up on a fiddy fiddy shot man.
And of the two close friends I know that have had offs, the both hit in those areas. As the last crash I saw (track) dude slid on his visor and chin bar quite well.
I'll keep my full facers.
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Re: Celebrities on Ducati's
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Quote from: hbliam on July 10, 2013, 07:36:17 AM
You need to re-read the Hurt report. It is absolutely in favor of full face helmets. Read all the notes, including more then just the helmet section. Your argument, to say that a 35% chance of impacting your face/chin isn't concerning, is laughable. That's some shit odds no matter how you look at it.
I didn't claim the Hurt report wasn't in favor of full face helmets.
I also didn't say a 35% chance of impacting your face/chin isn't "concerning" - but thanks for the attitidue
I said those are odds, and that each person can analyze those odds for themselves and make their own decisions.
Take into account where you ride, how you ride, what you ride, even when you ride.
But let's remember that the 35% chance of an impact is what the Hurt report found WHEN A HELMET CONTACTS SOMETHING IN AN ACCIDENT.
So that 35% chance is not "my chance of striking my chin when I ride my motorcycle" it's the percentage chance of striking my chin IF I HAVE AN ACCIDENT AND HIT MY FACE/HELMET on something when I do.
And the other factors I mentioned above all have a much greater effect on the "odds" of me having an accident, most especially riding sober.
In literally over 20 years and more than 250,000 miles I've had only 3 accidents (all involving compromised road conditions - 2 in rain, 1 on gravel) and in NONE of them did my helmet strike anything.
I'm not claiming that it can't happen.
I'm not claiming that there isn't a risk involved.
I'm simply saying make your own decision and live (or not) with it.
But please don't get sanctimonious about other's choices. Especially IF you don't ride ATGATT.
And let's all remember that the vast majority of the public thinks we are crazy for riding these things ANYTIME under ANY CONDITIONS, so their risk vs. reward analysis would still look a lot different from yours despite your FF helmet.
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