What's wrong with the GP11?

[Raux]

Looks like Rossi is going to do a proof of concept of the SBK AL frameless front

[zooom]

Looks like Rossi is going to do a proof of concept of the SBK AL frameless front

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/archive/tobymoody/





note the insert in the steering head in the 1st pic and the bracing under the tank on the side of the 2nd pic....

[Raux]

Tell you what... if this fails to produce results, look for Ducati to scramble with 50-million excuses since their next SBK is based on this exact tech.

[duccarlos]

So an AL frame up front?

[Raux]

yep same as the new SBK

[thought]

i always wondered why they didnt try that before

[Speeddog]

yep same as the new SBK

How do you know that it's the same as the new SBK?

[thought]

How do you know that it's the same as the new SBK?

1199 will have al instead of cf, it's been reported quite a few times.

[Raux]

same material, same tech.
I'm sure it's diff in size due to 4 vs 2 cyl etc.

but the point is, They HAVE to make this  AL frame piece work to help with sales of the new SBK
The CF was a bust. the AL is their last hope at proving the 'frameless' tech works.

plus i hate the term 'frameless'
to me that means, motor/seat/forks/swingarm. if you have a part connecting the motor to the forks and another connecting to the seat... you have frame components. how is the new style any different than the old style?
none. ok so the swing arm doesn't touch the front part.. but neither does my Monster... is that frameless then also...

sorry rant over... cheesy freaking marketing gimmick 'frameless' BS

[Speeddog]

same material, same tech.
I'm sure it's diff in size due to 4 vs 2 cyl etc.

~~~SNIP~~~

According to IZ_ spy pics, cellphone pics, rumor, fiction, and innuendo.

Has there been a pic of the SBK frame?

Or even a pic of a small part of the frame, like Toby Moody's cellphone pic of the GP11.1a?

[Raux]

According to IZ_ spy pics, cellphone pics, rumor, fiction, and innuendo.

Has there been a pic of the SBK frame?

Or even a pic of a small part of the frame, like Toby Moody's cellphone pic of the GP11.1a?

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=50268.msg923446#msg923446

not renderings. actual photos

[Speeddog]

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=50268.msg923446#msg923446

not renderings. actual photos

Which pic shows the "frame" that connects the engine to the steering head?

[Raux]

3rd one
you can see the steering head

[Triple J]

Tell you what... if this fails to produce results, look for Ducati to scramble with 50-million excuses since their next SBK is based on this exact tech.

Not necessarily. The GP machine is a far different animal than the WSBK machine for a variety of reasons. What works in one may not work in the other.

Now if they aren't competitive, even bordering on dominant, in WSBK with the new bike then I expect the shit to hit the fan.

[derby]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/173066/1/rossi_to_try_aluminium_chassis_at_aragon.html