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desmoquattro
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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September 15, 2011, 02:41:44 PM »
Quote from: derby on September 15, 2011, 01:45:53 PM
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/173066/1/rossi_to_try_aluminium_chassis_at_aragon.html
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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At Aragon, Nicky was quoted as saying "My engines wouldn't work in that chassis." , referring to Rossi's GP11.1Al.
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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Best pic I've seen so far:
http://www.cycleworld.com/2011/09/17/finding-flexibility-in-motogp-racing/
good text by Kevin Cameron (as usual).
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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September 18, 2011, 11:47:58 AM »
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Sep/110917rydernotes.htm
I like the Titanic/deck chairs comment at the end. Very appropriate.
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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September 19, 2011, 06:51:47 AM »
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Sep/110918rydernotes.htm
Duc shuts down their WSBK team (yeah, yeah... I know Checa is the de facto "team"), pays Rossi a boat load of $$$ and this is all they can come up with?
Who's actually in charge of this mess? It's like watching a plane spiral out of control and/or watching a boat sink. Take your pick. Sad.
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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Seventh may be the new first at Ducati but ...
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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September 21, 2011, 11:21:21 AM »
Quote from: Speeddog on September 17, 2011, 09:52:17 PM
http://www.cycleworld.com/2011/09/17/finding-flexibility-in-motogp-racing/
good text by Kevin Cameron (as usual).
Cameron does a nice job of explaining the role that chassis flex plays in stability in his (1998) book
Sportbike Performance Handbook
(see Chapter 14), and touches on the strengths and limitations some manufacturers dealt with. Although it's ~fifteen years old, the physics of chassis stability have not changed.
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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I say for sheetz and giggles Rossi should throw a leg over a trellis framed GP11 and see what happens....
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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September 21, 2011, 03:48:41 PM »
Something else to consider?
http://www.motoczysz.com/news/article/motoczysz_tests_latest_6x_flex_front_end
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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September 22, 2011, 04:55:46 AM »
Quote from: EvilSteve on September 21, 2011, 03:48:41 PM
Something else to consider?
http://www.motoczysz.com/news/article/motoczysz_tests_latest_6x_flex_front_end
How exactly does that thing work?
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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September 22, 2011, 04:56:35 AM »
Quote from: EvilSteve on September 21, 2011, 03:48:41 PM
Something else to consider?
http://www.motoczysz.com/news/article/motoczysz_tests_latest_6x_flex_front_end
cool concept....however it works...suspension technology is something always worth pushing...
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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Quote from: duccarlos on September 22, 2011, 04:55:46 AM
How exactly does that thing work?
forks are solid pieces
the yoke has a single shock
basically adapts the rear single shock design to the front.
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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September 22, 2011, 11:05:13 AM »
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/valentino-rossi-test-aluminum-frame-jerez/
rossi to test new al frame at jerez... differing information on whether it will be twin spar or the "frameless" style though.
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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September 22, 2011, 01:04:33 PM »
Quote from: duccarlos on September 22, 2011, 04:55:46 AM
How exactly does that thing work?
The concept is that the fork lowers are built to flex side to side but not forward to back. The flex is tunable and comes into play when the bike is leant all the way over. The rider still has a direct connection from the bars to the tire. I can't imagine why people wouldn't consider this option.
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Re: What's wrong with the GP11?
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Quote from: lawbreaker on September 21, 2011, 02:40:00 PM
I say for sheetz and giggles Rossi should throw a leg over a trellis framed GP11 and see what happens....
I understand the reasoning behind the change away from the steel trellis (airbox volume), but they seemed to be winning then despite, so...
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