Brno GP test

[zooom]

http://www.bikesportnews.com/news-detail.cfm?newstitle=MotoGP-Brno-test:-It-wheelies-in-fifth!---Spies&newsid=5322

2 good gems in there

"It is going to change the ways you do stuff and the style of racing, which will suit some people better while others will have to change but on paper it shouldn't hurt us. The way I ride with less corner speed and more braking, and being a bigger guy and more horsepower, I shouldn't be at such a disadvantage.

"The biggest key for me right now is not so much jumping on a thousand but the current disadvantages of acceleration and being heavier and not coming from a 250cc background we won't have so much to face next year, so I'm looking forward to that.

and then this...which then makes it sound more like 990 era riding to ensue potentially...

"The biggest thing is having the torque available. You can mess up the corner a little and still have the grunt to get out of it with the same exit speed. It's a little safety thing.

"It won't make the racing a whole lot closer but with the 1000s power is not the problem, it's going to be grip and who can use it the best. You will pass in places where you couldn't pass with an 800. You will be able to stuff it in there, stop and still fire it out and not lose that drive. It will open up a few more passing opportunities."

[gm2]

http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2011/08/15/2011_brno_motogp_test_round_up_all_hail_.html

[duccarlos]

http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2011/08/15/2011_brno_motogp_test_round_up_all_hail_.html

This is a loaded statement:

But the electronics and the fuel limits are still in place, along with the astonishingly efficient Bridgestone tires. As long as those factors are still there, the racing won't change that much.

[ducpainter]

This is a loaded statement:

efficient?

Not for Ducati.

[gm2]

efficient?

Not for Ducati.

it's long been established that the bikes have to be designed to work with the tires.. it's not bridgestone's problem, it's ducati's 

[mitt]

efficient?

Not for Ducati.

Hellish efficient at going backwards 

mitt

[ducpainter]

it's long been established that the bikes have to be designed to work with the tires.. it's not bridgestone's problem, it's ducati's 

That's the rub...

it seems that Ducati had a bike that worked with the 'Stones...

until they became the 'Official' tire of the series.

I'm not a fan of spec anything at the GP level.

I don't care if every race isn't a fairing banger...

[zooom]

I'm not a fan of spec anything at the GP level.

well...you can't have a completely unlimited class...there have to be SOME specs...

so, considering that...which specs of what is coming would you enforce and which would you eliminate?

[ducpainter]

well...you can't have a completely unlimited class...there have to be SOME specs...

so, considering that...which specs of what is coming would you enforce and which would you eliminate?

When I say spec I mean a 'control' tire, or engine like in moto 2

Sure you need rules.

Which rule?

...engines are limited to 1000 cc's...fuel tanks will be xx liters in capacity...

Have at it boys.

Eliminate the rest of them.

[zooom]

so you think the 81mm stroke should be tossed?

personally...I'd rather give them a stroke limitation, CC spec, a spec'd ECU and let have as much or as little fuel as they desire...

[ducpainter]

so you think the 81mm stroke should be tossed?

personally...I'd rather give them a stroke limitation, CC spec, a spec'd ECU and let have as much or as little fuel as they desire...

I think a displacement limit and a fuel limit is all they need at the premiere level of racing.

I don't care if it costs billions to win.

I want to see the most motivated player win.

While the racing in moto2 is exciting, it isn't gp level IMO due to the spec engine.

[triangleforge]

it's long been established that the bikes have to be designed to work with the tires.. it's not bridgestone's problem, it's ducati's 

Which is why Rossi noting that "We also tried some new Bridgestone tyres, and the first impression was good" has to be at least a feeble, rain-soaked ray of sunshine...

[zarn02]

I'm not a fan of spec anything at the GP level.

Agreed. As I said in another thread, "while I understand cost concerns, personally I view prototype racing as the one place to just go absolutely bananas."

"Your engine must displace under [xxxx]cc. Go with God."

[fastwin]

I'm with you. Some general rules are fine... no, you can't have four wheels on your bike, that makes it a car! But after the general rules are set then knock yourself out. Sure cubic money often wins under those circumstances but hasn't that always been the case? Ford got tired in the 1960s of Ferrari winning LeMans and everything else so out came the check books... voila, Ford GT40s. Cubic money. I think less rules would enhance MotoGP and F1. If X maker of tires does better then everyone will gravitate towards running those buns and in theory it should push the other makers to do better. There is more competition going on than just between the riders on the track.

[duccarlos]

Plus more tech being developed that will eventually make their way to street bikes