Has your Attitude towards Stoner Changed?

[koko64]

And this from Michael Scott from his interview with Agostini, who said Stoner is to Rossi what Hailwood was to himself.
 Thats a hell of a compliment, to both of them.

[EvilSteve]

I like him more than some other Aussie riders.

Hey, you haven't even met me!

Oh, you mean Mladin... 

[monstermick58]

I'll second that!

Am I the only guy that thought Wayne Gardner was/is a complete Asshat?!

No, you are not.



And Stoner is the Gun! I think will follow the likes of Mick Doohan, that is he will stick with Honda and win many more championships.




                                      Mmick

[The Don]

Amen, Mmick

[zooom]

 And Stoner is the Gun! I think will follow the likes of Mick Doohan, that is he will stick with Honda and win many more championships.
                                      Mmick

he'll stay with Honda as long as Suppo is there and he gets preferential treatment...as far as how many more championships come from their partnership...it seems a bit too early to throw those kinds of eggs around into baskets with all new formula of machinery coming into play...it is a virtually new horizon coming up here...

[The Don]

I wouldn't say he got preferential treatment, there were four factory Honda's out there. What preferential treatment did he get exactly?

[zarn02]

I wouldn't say he got preferential treatment, there were four factory Honda's out there. What preferential treatment did he get exactly?

When the Honda bosses gathered for their pre-season goat sacrifice, it was Casey's name they uttered unto the dark lord of two-wheeled victory.

[zooom]

I wouldn't say he got preferential treatment, there were four factory Honda's out there. What preferential treatment did he get exactly?

who's data has been foremost in HRC's head thus far in development of the RC213V?...certainly not  Puig's golden boy who is also the same boy that has been on the cusp of nothing despite him being the mule they origionally designed the RC212V around with little return/results for what they produced....

[gm2]

i'm pretty sure the 2x world champion on the team always gets preferential treatment.  

and the problem with honda performance 2007-2010.5 wasn't dani.

[Jester]

who's data has been foremost in HRC's head thus far in development of the RC213V?...certainly not  Puig's golden boy who is also the same boy that has been on the cusp of nothing despite him being the mule they origionally designed the RC212V around with little return/results for what they produced....

Pedro's lack of results are generally down to his inability to stay healthy.  When fully fit, he's as solid a bet for a win as anyone.  I think Stoner would still have taken this years championship, but if Simoncelli doesn't torpedo Pedro this year, he would have given him a hell of a run.  Pedro was in great form running up to that incident.

[CairnsDuc]

Casey has already said on a number of occasions that he likes the 1000 and is looking forward to racing them, Wayne Gardner was recently interviewed on ONE HD Program RPM and said a few things which I thought was interesting, he got to ride Stoner's Ducati and he was Amazed at the things Casey was doing with it, he said it was a very poor Handling bike. and that Casey should be scary fast on the 1000's as the extra power and Torque will suit his riding style. Wayne said Casey was able to ride around the Ducati's front end problems by sliding the rear of the Ducati around (Steering the bike with the Throttle)

So I can only Imagine how he will go on a bike that doesn't want to throw him down the road everytime it goes near a corner and has even more power and torque.
It'll be an interesting 2012!  

[EvilSteve]

he'll stay with Honda as long as Suppo is there and he gets preferential treatment...as far as how many more championships come from their partnership...it seems a bit too early to throw those kinds of eggs around into baskets with all new formula of machinery coming into play...it is a virtually new horizon coming up here...

Do you have any more straws to clutch at? Stoner showed up to a team with a bike that'd been built for and developed by someone still on the same team. He'd never ridden it before and his crew had never touched the bike but Stoner won the first race. Credit where credit's due mate, you're really sounding unreasonable here.

Pedrosa is very fast and had got the bike going well by the end of 2010 but wasn't dominating either. Most of them say that they hadn't done much to the bike from the end of 2010 to the start of 2011 (i.e. it was already good) and Pedrosa was a threat for sure until his injuries but that pretty much describes Pedrosa, always a threat, never a champion (in GP at least).

Stoner and his crew were able to take a new (to them) bike and win a championship with 10 race wins and 12 pole positions, that doesn't happen because someone in the team is on your side. Stoner is just bloody good, end of story. Like him or not he's one of the fastest guys in the world and inventing excuses has really become very transparent.

As much as I wasn't a Simoncelli fan, it's a real shame that we won't get to see him on the RC213V, I think he'd have been Stoner's main threat next year. I wouldn't have been surprised if Simoncelli won it all next year or at least came close.

RIP #58

[gm2]

no arguing stoner's speed.  let's not forget he spent a year on the V5.. yeah yeah, he crashed a lot, but he was also blazing fast then, too.  my point is that the general honda ethos was not brand new to him last year at this time.

and they may have the last in a batch of small incremental changes but no way was the 2010.0 and the 2010.5 RC212v the same bike.  they found some serious motor in the middle of the year.

[zooom]

wow EvilSteve....my main thing is that Stoner is now firmly in the primary seat for the RC213V in the realm of a new chapter....now is the point at which we shall see a lot of things potentially happen in 1 way or another...I am not disputing that he firmly won the championship or that he is a good rider....but he isn't GOAT material IMHO either....he has the weilding end of the pointy stick and is the master of his destiny from here....but to what point shall he remain in that control has as much to do with factors outside his control too...and giving credit is also due to Suppo for bringing him in to Ducati and then into Repsol Honda....and if Casey keeps producing results...then Suppo will fight HRC to make sure he gets what he needs...the minute he flounders...it will be a different story as HRC have shown in the past...they choose their favorites....

[Triple J]

Preferential treatment from Honda or not (who cares really)...if Stoner stays healthy and Honda doesn't shit the bed with the new bike, I see him winning a couple more championships easy. I just hope someone can challenge him a little more so it isn't decided until the last race of the season.