Lock up your daughters....

Started by ryandalling, June 19, 2008, 12:46:54 PM

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silentbob

Quote from: sbrguy on June 20, 2008, 10:34:40 PM
i have to agree with other posters here, the cost of college unless you went within the past 5 years has gotten more and more expnesive, now i know you will say, "it was expensive when i went" but the cost of college is now outpacing the normal rates of inflation so its not like when you went back in the day if it was 10-20 years ago.  if you are lucky enough to get into a private school you are looking at upwards of 25-30k dollars a year for tuitiion, i don't know about you but a kid fresh out of high school won't have that type of money to spend a year even with working jobs, at least not easily at all.

the work ethic kids have or don't have is highly dependent i think on how parents raised their kids, you can have hard working kids that didn't have to work through college that know the value of an honest work day.

the problem i think is that too many parents "give their kids the best" right off the bat thinking its good for them, in a sense the parents work hard so that their kids can have better than they did and in the process teach their kids the concept of "entitlement" bc parents justify it as "i'm giving them the best i can" no you aren't if you are just throwing money at the situation or making up excuses why you are making their lives easier and easier.

example parents that gie their kid as a first car a 1 or 2 year old or new bmw or mercedes or honda, bc they got good grades and justifying it as "well i want a safe car for them".... how in the world do you expect a kid to learn the value of money and things if you give them a 20-30k dollar car as their first car?  wtf?  what ever happened to a kid getting the piece of junk 1000 dollar car that barely runs that they have to work for and such? 

but that is unacceptable bc everyone "wants to give them the best".. and you wonder why kids feel so entitled.

The same thing brought down the Italian mob.  Second and third generation spoiled rich kids raised in the US who would roll over on their bosses to avoid a little time.

junior varsity

Quote from: sbrguy on June 20, 2008, 10:34:40 PM
if you are lucky enough to get into a private school you are looking at upwards of 25-30k dollars a year for tuitiion,

$35-40K.

Vanderbilt, Emory, Southern Methodist as examples.

Speedbag

Quote from: sbrguy on June 20, 2008, 10:34:40 PM
i have to agree with other posters here, the cost of college unless you went within the past 5 years has gotten more and more expnesive, now i know you will say, "it was expensive when i went" but the cost of college is now outpacing the normal rates of inflation so its not like when you went back in the day if it was 10-20 years ago.  if you are lucky enough to get into a private school you are looking at upwards of 25-30k dollars a year for tuitiion, i don't know about you but a kid fresh out of high school won't have that type of money to spend a year even with working jobs, at least not easily at all.

the work ethic kids have or don't have is highly dependent i think on how parents raised their kids, you can have hard working kids that didn't have to work through college that know the value of an honest work day.

the problem i think is that too many parents "give their kids the best" right off the bat thinking its good for them, in a sense the parents work hard so that their kids can have better than they did and in the process teach their kids the concept of "entitlement" bc parents justify it as "i'm giving them the best i can" no you aren't if you are just throwing money at the situation or making up excuses why you are making their lives easier and easier.

example parents that gie their kid as a first car a 1 or 2 year old or new bmw or mercedes or honda, bc they got good grades and justifying it as "well i want a safe car for them".... how in the world do you expect a kid to learn the value of money and things if you give them a 20-30k dollar car as their first car?  wtf?  what ever happened to a kid getting the piece of junk 1000 dollar car that barely runs that they have to work for and such? 

but that is unacceptable bc everyone "wants to give them the best".. and you wonder why kids feel so entitled.

I agree 300%. And, yes, education is the absolute best thing a parent could give a child, assuming said child follows through.

For the record, I graduated in 1993 (with a 3.4 GPA). College is waaaay more expensive now relative to other things, but my main point was the whole entitlement/personal responsibility aspect.

I started saving for college when I was an early teen because I watched my folks scrape by growing up. I knew I was going to have to go to school in order for life to be better for me and also knew that they would/could not pony up the jing to send me. My folks did give me my first vehicle, a rusted-out '72 Ford F100 that cost $500.

From there on if it was to be, it was up to me.  :)
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