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« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2011, 05:39:36 PM »

    If I understand what your saying the guy didn't deserve is bike  Grin I my head, it's logic than a R1 goes faster than a 900 on a 0 to 60 mph

ho well..... I can always pass someguy's whit their Honda civic ....  It's hard for their Ego because they've been pass by a girl ...   Grin

What I am saying....is a R1 will win all/every drag race to not only 60 mph ...but all the way thru to say 145 mph...if the R1 driver is awake
A Ducati M900 not of the same era or technology.....
But where the Ducati does shine is on STYLE points & that beloved v twin sound!!! chug
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« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2011, 07:16:18 PM »

I have made longer....LOL   Wink

This is true.   Grin
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« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2011, 08:30:55 PM »

this makes me want an 848 motor in my S2R1k.

why cant they make an 848 Monster?Huh?
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« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2011, 08:40:35 PM »

this makes me want an 848 motor in my S2R1k.

why cant they make an 848 Monster?Huh?

Gotta ask:  why would you want a Monster with a 848 vs a 848 Street Fighter?
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« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2011, 09:56:45 PM »

on the dyno i used for many years, my 750 with basic mods (jet kit, pipes, open airbox) made 65hp like nearly every other 750 in that state.  a 900 carb motor in that state made 76.  s2r1000 made 82 std, 88 opened up.  a s2r1000 is so much faster than a 750 it's not funny, especially over 100mph for instance.  the difference in pull at that speed is very obvious.

i can completely understand the desire to have a bike that is faster off the line or easier to wheelie.  a well geared 900 can be very quick up to a given (lowish, but city like) speed.  you'll feel the torque difference there more than the power.  my hot 750 wheelies rather easily, but my 900 was far easier and faster and had an extra gear and was just more fun when you're in the controlled environment of the city and you can't go knee down (which it would seem makes us unworthy of such fine motorcycles and the needless power they possess).  of course, i also enjoyed bikes that wouldn't wheelie past the speed limit in first gear as they slowed me down somewhat.  you'd be amazed how nice a commuter the KR1S 250 was.  and the 600m that replaced it.

btw, s4r makes 115 - 120 and wheelies very nicely, but if you really want a bike you can use like a complete dill the s4rs with a full system is just 130hp of heaven.  lordy, lordy, lord they are fun.  just the thought of it makes me grin like an idiot.
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« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2011, 10:02:51 PM »

Gotta ask:  why would you want a Monster with a 848 vs a 848 Street Fighter?

having only sat on the new monster and street fighter, the SF feels too big. i like how compact a monster feels.


I was thinking about how great an SF848 would be, but id have to ride one for a day and see how it is as an everyday bike.
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« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2011, 11:53:22 PM »

my stable mate, an aprillia rsv4r, makes even my monster with clip ons feel big. damn those rsv4's are a compact and rediculously powerfull bike!!
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« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2011, 04:07:09 AM »

Gotta ask:  why would you want a Monster with a 848 vs a 848 Street Fighter?

looks, style, ergonomics, modability/customization?
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« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2011, 10:55:56 AM »

looks, style, ergonomics, modability/customization?

Well, looks & style, I have to respectfully disagree ....Personal Preference chug

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« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2011, 11:52:57 AM »

Well, looks & style, I have to respectfully disagree ....Personal Preference chug



to me, looks and style are personal preference and do make all the difference...on the looks, it is like a blonde vs a brunette or a skinny chic vs a chic with curves...what draws our eye in and keeps us involved/engaged are the looks/preferences that each of us are attracted to...style is the same arguement....argueing a SF848 versus a Monster 848 is like argueing an old style Monster versus a new syle Monster....they have different style cues that attract different people....
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« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2011, 01:03:49 PM »

to me, looks and style are personal preference and do make all the difference...on the looks, it is like a blonde vs a brunette or a skinny chic vs a chic with curves...what draws our eye in and keeps us involved/engaged are the looks/preferences that each of us are attracted to...style is the same arguement....argueing a SF848 versus a Monster 848 is like argueing an old style Monster versus a new syle Monster....they have different style cues that attract different people....

Totally agree! waytogo
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« Reply #41 on: November 30, 2011, 07:28:50 PM »

I agree with Heman. The style of the monster just doesn't carry over to the SF. Yeah it's naked, but its still a superbike. You can alter the riding position on the SF but it will never be a monster. Just a naked superbike

Just a naked bike!!?
agreed, it is a different animal...albeit beautiful in my eyes!! waytogo

Re monsters...the new 1100 EVO is pretty nice.
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« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2011, 10:48:16 AM »

having only sat on the new monster and street fighter, the SF feels too big. i like how compact a monster feels.


I was thinking about how great an SF848 would be, but id have to ride one for a day and see how it is as an everyday bike.


Perhaps the SF felt bigger because it had a water-cooled motor attached to it, whereas the current monsters only have air-cooled motors.  So if you could shoe the 848 motor into a monster frame, you may actually be disappointed with the resultant size perception.  And therefore, you may not really wish that Ducati would make an 848 Monster.   Roll Eyes   Grin
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« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2011, 11:37:58 AM »


Perhaps the SF felt bigger because it had a water-cooled motor attached to it, whereas the current monsters only have air-cooled motors.  So if you could shoe the 848 motor into a monster frame, you may actually be disappointed with the resultant size perception.  And therefore, you may not really wish that Ducati would make an 848 Monster.   Roll Eyes   Grin

someone shoehorned a testastretta into a new monster and i have to say it looked pretty hot... saw the pics here before, but i forget the link.
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« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2011, 12:47:42 PM »

in some ways they are catering to you now anyway with the sf.

the sf848 and '12 sfs now have 20mm higher bars risers so the rider triangle should be better.

personally though, i'm ok with the current set up on the sf.  compared to the monster it's def more aggressive but it's not bad once you're up to speed and only gets bad after a couple of hours on the highway.

also, what belies the larger proportions of the sf vs the monster is that the sf feels narrower than the monster.  so while it did feel a bigger when i first got it, the thinness of the bike makes it go away once you're moving.
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