Going from 750 to 900?

[koko64]

Outgrowing and needing.. Yeah, they can mean different things for sure.

The man wants more power!

Get a 900, put some FCR carbs on (maybe some hi comp pistons). You will have a fun engine. The 900 is by no means an outrageous motor.

[ducpainter]

So clearly my numbers are off. But so are the manufacture numbers. Research finds the 00' 750 to stock out at 69hp. So my old dyno numbers must have been 79hp. But lets just say it was more like 75. Now my 08 S2R states 95. (No freakin way).  Motorcyclist show at 87. Which I still believe is high. So most likely the best case scenario is 12hp between typically modded 750 and stock S2R. Now clearly the numbers are debateable and the newer engines will respond much better. I'm just saying that there is not a real difference between the two. If someone feels he has outgrown a 750, then spending any money on a 900 would be futile. At very least step up to an 1100 with 95hp.

Having owned a 900 Monster and a 750 SS I couldn't disagree more.

The 2 motors have entirely different power characteristics, and all published and unpublished numbers aside...

the 900 has a ton more power than the 750.

[ducatigirl100]

the 900 has a ton more power than the 750

Yeap  on multiple occasion I had the chance race some moron's at  red light's whit my 900....       so 900 = yeaaaaaaaaaaa! 

One time the guy add a yamaha R1...he tried as hard as he could but he never was able to pass me lol ...    still tryin to figure this one out ( the 900 maybe shorter gear's than a R1 or the guy didin't deserve is bike ..lol    )

Another fact I'm 5'7 and 125 pound's  .....  but on your profile photo you seam to be a little bit taller than me... so maybe yes, you would probably need a bigger bike   you have my OK   

[ducpainter]

I guess it all depends on whether the OP's 750 has been jetted with exhaust, and whether or not he plans to mod the 900. My impression is that the OP is looking for more HP. The cost ratio to swap engines, in my opinion would just not be worth the slight increase in HP. While the 750 was a good bike, there are many more options that would be more entertaining for an upgrade.


P.S.  An S4R has a ton more power. 10 to 15, yeah you'll feel it but not like 30.

He's looking for more power...

not necessarily horsepower.

The torque produced by the 900 makes the modest hp increase over the other motors seem much greater.

If you haven't ridden a 900 it's difficult to explain.

At any rate, it's a worthwhile upgrade IMO.

[ZachDDill]

Well tell me if this makes sense... Trading somebody my 750 for a 900 (and give them some cash as well) that way I can upgrade my bike without having to buy a whole new bike.

[ducpainter]

Well tell me if this makes sense... Trading somebody my 750 for a 900 (and give them some cash as well) that way I can upgrade my bike without having to buy a whole new bike.

Just make sure the 900 is the same vintage so all the electrical stuff matches up, and that you get the exhaust header and carbs.

[ZachDDill]

I don't want this to turn into an argument.  Do you think it would be cost effective to upgrade a 750 when newer options with better suspensions are available. Would you just swap motors with-out overhauling it first? Dollar for dollar with all the options available I say find a newer ride.  

I would love to spend less than a grand, idk if thats possible.

[Howie]

So clearly my numbers are off. But so are the manufacture numbers. Research finds the 00' 750 to stock out at 69hp. So my old dyno numbers must have been 79hp. But lets just say it was more like 75. Now my 08 S2R states 95. (No freakin way).  Motorcyclist show at 87. Which I still believe is high. So most likely the best case scenario is 12hp between typically modded 750 and stock S2R. Now clearly the numbers are debateable and the newer engines will respond much better. I'm just saying that there is not a real difference between the two. If someone feels he has outgrown a 750, then spending any money on a 900 would be futile. At very least step up to an 1100 with 95hp.

Could you show us your research?

http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/article_index.asp   Click on  MCN Performance Index for Winter 2009/2010 Edition (PDF: 624K)  scroll down.  Thier specs are from a dyno run.

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/ducati_monster_750-monster_750_dark-monster_750_city-monster_750_metallic_2000.php

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Ducati/Ducati-M750-Monster-1996--2001/

http://www.motorbikes.be/en/Ducati_Monster_750_-_Dark_-_City_-_Dark_city_2000.aspx

My bike, an '01 750, dyno readings varying from 59-61 HP, open air box, stage 2 jetting and slip ons.  High mileage, but perfect compression.  The 750 has a broad powerband, offering good available power when you need it.  Going against the clock is a much different story.  

[Roaduser]

mcnews musta had a dud 696 that day. 29 ft lbs!! 

and by the numbers that must be a s2r800. interesting that the torque of the s2r800 near matches the 4 valve 748.

[kopfjäger]

I am kind of in the boat with her on this...regardless of whether you ride everyday or not...on the street, I am wondering how you might outgrow a 750 Monster unless you are spending time breaking laws and exceeding triple digits everywhere you can...if you slab ride alot, then maybe you are just looking at the wrong kind of bike....kinda like trying to use a crescent wrench instead of a socket or box end wrench....if it is because of cruising in 5th gear, and you want a 6th gear for overdrive cruising, that makes sense...but the most common problem when it comes to the speed of a bike still remains to be the adjustability and tuneability of the screw between the ears of your head in a majority of cases...not saying this in any other meaning except as an outsider trying to understand how or why you think you might have outgrown the 750...

Yeah, cause a 750 is such a beast to ride through the twisties ( ), sometimes it's about POWER, pure and simple. Not how fast you can ride around twisties ( ). I know the great unwashed disagrees.

[118811]

Yeap  on multiple occasion I had the chance race some moron's at  red light's whit my 900....       so 900 = yeaaaaaaaaaaa! 

One time the guy add a yamaha R1...he tried as hard as he could but he never was able to pass me lol ...    still tryin to figure this one out ( the 900 maybe shorter gear's than a R1 or the guy didin't deserve is bike ..lol    )

Another fact I'm 5'7 and 125 pound's  .....  but on your profile photo you seam to be a little bit taller than me... so maybe yes, you would probably need a bigger bike   you have my OK   

R1 & M900!!!?>>>>>the R1 only has 1st gear working!!!!
I have a 98' M900 with FCR's & a R1 in a drag race...

[zooom]

Yeah, cause a 750 is such a beast to ride through the twisties ( ), sometimes it's about POWER, pure and simple. Not how fast you can ride around twisties ( ). I know the great unwashed disagrees.

I am not going to disagree with you on the idea of wanting power, but it is clear to me NOW why moreso than in the initial posting...some people feel they need more power when they really aren't using what they have and it is usually due to a degree of the 'Murican-Bigger-is-Better persona that folks get caught up in...which is troubling to a degree when you are in the mountains and you see a guy railing around a dude on an R1 with an EX500 and then the guy on the R1 makes it a point on the straight as fast and as soon as he can passes that same lil Ninja on 1 wheel in the triple digits...we have all seen it...and when advice is asked of me, I ask questions for to ascertain the best answer in response...and if it is a simple fact of wanting to do excessive triple digits, then maybe a 900 isn't even the answer...or even a Ducati...but you never know what the best reccomendation is until you ask questions in response to the initial query.

personally, I have two major opinions on street bikes in general...and they are common...but, 1) it is more fun to ride a slow bike fast because you get more from the experience of getting more out of the machines potential and yourself than to ride a fast bike slow and be nowhere near either yours or the machine's potential...and 2) in America anyway, there is no real earthly need for more than 100hp on the street legally speaking...anywhere you ride on the street, the only logic for having more is to break the law ( generally speaking here)...is it nice to have more on tap? hell yes...but is it necessary? not really...

[Pedro-bot]

I am not going to disagree with you on the idea of wanting power, but it is clear to me NOW why moreso than in the initial posting...some people feel they need more power when they really aren't using what they have and it is usually due to a degree of the 'Murican-Bigger-is-Better persona that folks get caught up in...which is troubling to a degree when you are in the mountains and you see a guy railing around a dude on an R1 with an EX500 and then the guy on the R1 makes it a point on the straight as fast and as soon as he can passes that same lil Ninja on 1 wheel in the triple digits...we have all seen it...and when advice is asked of me, I ask questions for to ascertain the best answer in response...and if it is a simple fact of wanting to do excessive triple digits, then maybe a 900 isn't even the answer...or even a Ducati...but you never know what the best reccomendation is until you ask questions in response to the initial query.

<SNIP>

This has to be one of the longest run-on sentences I've ever read. Sheesh.............

To the OP:
Make this a poll with the following choices:
1. Keep the 750.
2. Swap motors for a 900.
3. Sell/trade the 750 for a 900.
4. Boobies (of course, you have to always add boobies on a poll)

[zooom]

This has to be one of the longest run-on sentences I've ever read. Sheesh.............
 

I have made longer....LOL   

[ducatigirl100]

R1 & M900!!!?>>>>>the R1 only has 1st gear working!!!!
I have a 98' M900 with FCR's & a R1 in a drag race...

    If I understand what your saying the guy didn't deserve is bike  I my head, it's logic than a R1 goes faster than a 900 on a 0 to 60 mph

ho well..... I can always pass someguy's whit their Honda civic ....  It's hard for their Ego because they've been pass by a girl ...