Rossi better than Stoner?..

[duccarlos]

All MotoGP riders today in comparison are a bunch of pussies.

I want to see them riding around on Black Shadows. Let's see who's fast then.

[Randy@StradaFab]

  Plus Rossi can do this....http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-racing-videos/rossi-second-to-loeb-in-monza-rally/19571.html

[fastwin]

I loved the days when the IOM was part of the World Championship series. It's one thing to win at Assen or Monza but to also win on the mountain course bumps up your GOAT points by 10X. Nobody has done that in a while.

[HotIce]

Anyone remembers this?



With crazy Italian commentators included 

[Howie]

My tendency is to root for the underdog.  Rossi is a rare exception.

[muskrat]

Rossi is just bad ass.  No fear and taunts his opponents like no one else can.

[zooom]

Rossi is just bad ass.  No fear and taunts his opponents like no one else can.

are you implying he is the Chuck Norris of MotoGP?!?!?!

[Raux]

Anyone remembers this?



With crazy Italian commentators included 

seems like Rossi was just toying to show Lorenzo who's boss.

[polivo]

God.. i luuuuuv my ducati, but watching that video reminds me of how effortless his riding was. Obviously, because we has on a highly refined piece of machinery.. matched with his god given talent.  NOW? he lookslike a man with a jet pack strapped to his back, tryying to ski a slaloom. sad to see him fighting that unwieldy beast.  I just hope ducati gives up on the carbon fiber frame.. gets some kinda metal back in there.. and watch everyone piss their pants when rossi is in a competetive machine.

[thought]

God.. i luuuuuv my ducati, but watching that video reminds me of how effortless his riding was. Obviously, because we has on a highly refined piece of machinery.. matched with his god given talent.  NOW? he lookslike a man with a jet pack strapped to his back, tryying to ski a slaloom. sad to see him fighting that unwieldy beast.  I just hope ducati gives up on the carbon fiber frame.. gets some kinda metal back in there.. and watch everyone piss their pants when rossi is in a competetive machine.

they're already moving to aluminum twin spar

[muskrat]

are you implying he is the Chuck Norris of MotoGP?!?!?!

why yes.  I'll add you to the next memo list.

[CairnsDuc]

Gotta love the old Somebody vs Somebody Argument, Who is the Best, who is the Fastest.

I think both Riders are fantastic, I personally prefer Stoner (He's an Aussie after all) VR is a superb rider and great to watch, but I think it is hard to guess who will be considered the best, until they have both retired and then you sit down and compare Stats then, until that point it's still a guessing game.

But an Interesting thing that came to my mind, Stoner went out on the Ducati and won them a Title, and whenever any of Ducati's rider's dared to say the bike has problems or issues, they were quickly told they were wrong, slapped in the mouth for daring to suggest the mighty Ducati might have got it wrong and told to go out there and win. Stoner did that, on a bike that did not work to his liking, he rode around it, and sometimes it bit him back (It threw him down the road on more than one occasion)

Rossi on the other hand has gone to Ducati Management and said the bike does not work, look at Ducati now, throwing no end of parts and money at the bike because the rider does not like it.

It's interesting to me, Ducati believed no one when they were constantly told the bike does not work, now, when one of the most awarded Riders in this Era jumps on board can't get it to work, they bend over backwards to fix it, all the while there have been rumblings from the Euro Motorbike Press that maybe, just Maybe, Stoner wasn't so bad afterall...

Just my $0.02

[derby]

It's interesting to me, Ducati believed no one when they were constantly told the bike does not work...

fwiw, ducati changed their tune after they let bayliss test the bike.

[duccarlos]

Imagine how much more Stoner could have won on a Duc. Anyway, VR is also bringing in his engineer and a wealth of concrete feedback. Ducati is run by Italians. It took 2 riders that are considered amongst the best t ever ride, VR and Bayliss, to convince them to make changes. If Stone would not be so damn good, maybe they would have made changes. The fact that he could ride around the issues, he also has a completely different riding style, made him a bad example as to how bad the bike really was. Also consider that the bike has been getting worse and worse as the seasons go. Like it was said in this or another thread, the GP7 is not the GP11.

[Raux]

Imagine how much more Stoner could have won on a Duc. Anyway, VR is also bringing in his engineer and a wealth of concrete feedback. Ducati is run by Italians. It took 2 riders that are considered amongst the best t ever ride, VR and Bayliss, to convince them to make changes. If Stone would not be so damn good, maybe they would have made changes. The fact that he could ride around the issues, he also has a completely different riding style, made him a bad example as to how bad the bike really was. Also consider that the bike has been getting worse and worse as the seasons go. Like it was said in this or another thread, the GP7 is not the GP11.

it got worse when they went CF.