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Author Topic: Metaltech or Woodcraft Rearsets?  (Read 8388 times)
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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2011, 11:14:29 PM »

Yeah, I had rearsets on my previous motorcycle, which I used on the track from time to time.  I'm leaning toward the metaltech rearsets because of their adjustability.  I'm worried that if I buy the woodcrafts and put them on and hate the positioning, I'll regret having spent a few hundred on them. 
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 02:23:19 AM »

May I ask why you want rearsets?

Bling is a valid reason, but if you think you'll benefit from a different foot position and know which position you need, it would be smart to get rearsets that does the desired job. Example: Sato adjust up and/or forward - that makes them forwardsets or upsets. 

If you're not sure - buy some with good adjustability in more than one direction. 

What's the main reason one would get forwardsets in stead of rearsets? I've been struggling with this for a while. I think I need forwardsets (I'm 5'7",short legs barely touch the tank with my knees, always ride like I'm tip-toeing on the pegs) but I'd hate to spend 400€ just to realize I bought the wrong ones.
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2011, 02:27:54 AM »

Maybe it doesn't matter to you, but does the Metaltech adjust backwards at all - compared to stock?

Studying photos suggests up, but not backward  Huh?
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2011, 02:49:58 AM »

What's the main reason one would get forwardsets in stead of rearsets? I've been struggling with this for a while. I think I need forwardsets (I'm 5'7",short legs barely touch the tank with my knees, always ride like I'm tip-toeing on the pegs) but I'd hate to spend 400€ just to realize I bought the wrong ones.

'Rear' will open up your hip angle, lower your knee, but also sharpen the angle of knees and ancles.
This is not what you need. Your knees would be even further away from contacting the tank.

'Forward' will close your hip angle and open your knee angle. That's a more upright body position - towards touring/cruising.
However, it WILL raise your knees - allowing more knee/tank contact.

'Up' will raise your knees towards the tank. Hip, knee and ancle angles will sharpen, but that sounds like it's ok for you.
This will be the same position as a taller rider would be in when seated on your stock bike.


I strongly recommend checking which rearsets are actually doing what you want them to do.
I'm pretty sure most of them offer at least 'up'.
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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2011, 03:50:56 AM »

I sent Metaltech an email about their positions compared to stock and this is their reply:
Quote from: Metaltech
Sorry but we can't not spread the exact geometrical quotes of our products. You will have 6 different footrest positions all of them backtracked and raised respect to the original position . There are also 2 differents attachment points for the gear lever. We use this kid of regulations with 2 riders of the WSBK: Smrz and Guintoli, with alla the bikers of the Barni Racing Team (2011 Italian sbk Championship) and with Grandi corse (Italian Championship). I hope to have satisfied your request.
Reguards
I also asked Lightech and they 'did not have the info' but they provided a CAD image of their rearsets, but it didn't reveal more than the fact the different positions are 1cm apart.


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« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2011, 04:25:26 AM »

To my eye, it looks like the MetalTechs aren't more 'rear' than stock, but if they say so....

Good on Lightech for supplying drawings - you'll be able to compare to stock?

For the S2/4R, I know that Sato offer up and/or forward and that Rizoma offer up and/or rear.
You would have to compare stock 696 to stock S2/4R to verify if this info translates.

For your requirements, I think 'up' is the way to go - which means MetalTech or maybe Rizoma.
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« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2011, 05:37:00 PM »

I thought Lightech didn't make rearsets for the monster.  But if you're talking about getting them for a different bike, then never mind what I just wrote. 
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2011, 01:14:11 PM »

You're right; maybe I should have mentioned the answers I got where related to a 848 not a monster.
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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2011, 01:22:33 PM »

It's all good.  When I bought my monster, I was deciding between the 848 and the monster.  Both good bikes.  I'd be happy with either.
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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2012, 12:38:31 PM »

I thought I follow up on this as this info might be usefull to others (although for an 848). I decided to go with the Metaltechs afterall. Photoshopping pictures I found on the net I thought the Metaltechs would be a bit more forward than the Lightech which seems to start at the stock position and go up to the rear in a 45 degree line.

I was right:
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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2012, 12:58:49 PM »

Very interesting  waytogo nice work!

I'm disappointed and a little offended by manufacturers who call them rearsets when they're not.

Can we assume that it's the same for other applications.....
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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2012, 01:24:21 PM »

Yeah, I didn't want to go with the Metaltechs due to their answer, but I was looking for a more forward position, so in all I'm happy.
Just not the customer care I was hoping for.
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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2012, 10:06:47 AM »

I have no idea if their answer is taken out of thin air or is correct,
but Metaltech answered my email by saying it's 0 - 30 mm up and/or back, compared to stock.
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