1100 EVO vs Street Triple R / Blasphemy?

[duccarlos]

I barely restrained the urge to sit on the Daytona and the nearby Speed Triple...both are really nice.

I always wanted to try the 675. So when they brought the Triumph truck I wasted to time to sign up. That day I test rode the 675 and the Street Triple. I left disappointed because I really wanted to like the 675, just couldn't get past the ergos.

[thought]

The way I see it, btwn the evo and the str it's one of those "does my head choose or my heart choose" kind of things.

If the head chooses, the str is prob the better choice.  Cheaper insurance, prob better gas mileage, metal tank, more comfortable overall ergos, pretty well sorted out from the get go.  But... funky looks and you'll always be looking at monsters thinking, damn, maybe I should have gotten that.

If the heart chooses, then it's the duc... because it just looks a whole lot better, uses higher end parts, etc etc.  Also, that 2v duc sound is pretty amazing all the time, from idle to redline.  The triple only really starts to sound amazing when it starts to scream imo.

For myself, which bike to get always comes eventually down to what my heart wants because, the way I see it, if your brain chose the smartest path all the time, you wouldnt even be riding a bike at all

[El-Twin]

Oh, don't be embarrassed about stalling the EVO, common problem, I've stalled mine more times than I've stalled the 3 bikes I had prior. It's stall-y.

Thanks. Now I feel less ham-fisted. I guess that two cylinders + light flywheel = stall-y.

[El-Twin]

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The way I see it, btwn the evo and the str it's one of those "does my head choose or my heart choose" kind of things.

If the head chooses, the str is prob the better choice.  Cheaper insurance, prob better gas mileage, metal tank, more comfortable overall ergos, pretty well sorted out from the get go. 

My conclusion precisely. Ducati = heart, str = head. The universal conundrum.

But... funky looks and you'll always be looking at monsters thinking, damn, maybe I should have gotten that.

  You're killin' me here! 

which bike to get always comes eventually down to what my heart wants because, the way I see it, if your brain chose the smartest path all the time, you wouldnt even be riding a bike at all

Well said sir. I see some wisdom in this remark.

[Curmudgeon]

Thanks. Now I feel less ham-fisted. I guess that two cylinders + light flywheel = stall-y.

Probably doesn't help that the clutch effort is greater too.  If you are looking at the STR, why did you not look at the 796 which is the usual comparison? Bigger is better I guess...  At my age and weight/size, I just didn't need the extra cost and go, but I got the same ABS standard, same frame and wheels and swing arm, etc. The 796 just needed a cheap Ohlins and 14T. 58 ft. lbs. down low vs 50 ft. lbs for the STR up high. Says it all for me...

As for fueling, it could be richer and I may tweak that slightly. Out-of-the-box, it had one minor fueling glitch which has disappeared at 1,500+ miles. Ash rides better than 99% here, (maybe not as good as Alan Cathcart though!  ). http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorcycle_manufacturers/ducati/7733926/Ducati-Monster-796-review.html

Of course, he's a Brit and gives the edge to the STR naturally. "They all do that". 

It's 67 F here and I'm riding to lunch. If I don't it will probably snow next week...  :'(

[El-Twin]

Here's the str $$$ breakdown as equipped, per Curmudgeon's request:

MSRP = $9600
Arrows slip-ons = $1000
Flyscreen with visor = $400
Destination charge = $495

$11,495 total, less tax and license. Roughly the same as the evo without the termi and gearing swaps.

Which is too much for this particular bike, I think, because it's full MSRP on everything, including accessories, for a bike that already has 1,200 demo miles on it. All during that critical break-in zone.

[El-Twin]

If you are looking at the STR, why did you not look at the 796 which is the usual comparison? Bigger is better I guess...   

Don't get me wrong, I love the 796. But this would probably be the last serious toy I'll ever see, so I want to push the limit a bit. Because, well.... just because. It's that head vs heart thing again.

[RC Fan]

If it is a demo, how come the dealer won't move on the price?

[El-Twin]

If it is a demo, how come the dealer won't move on the price?

We didn't get to the dealing phase. At least not yet. This was just a "lets get acquainted" date.

[EvilSteve]

Thanks. Now I feel less ham-fisted. I guess that two cylinders + light flywheel = stall-y.

I meant those prior 3 bikes put together btw! I've sorted it out now, but jeez did that thing like to stall.

You're killin' me here! 

You'll be eyeing the STR thinking the same thing if you get the Duc, it's human nature.

I eye STRs now and wonder if I'd be happier, I also eye a lot of stuff, like a Ninja 1000 which comes with ABS in 2012. I'd have got that if it had ABS when I bought the EVO. But I change bikes every couple of years so...

[Curmudgeon]

Don't get me wrong, I love the 796. But this would probably be the last serious toy I'll ever see, so I want to push the limit a bit. Because, well.... just because. It's that head vs heart thing again.

Likewise, BTW. And unlike you, I was trying to replace my favorite backroad scratcher of all time, but in a package an old fart can ride without a staff chiropractor.  The 796 as configured does that mission just dandy. Just got back from leaving an older but fully sorted Triumph Sprint for dead..., and we both have roughly equal riding skills and "dark pasts". 

Read my intro thread and all will become clear. http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=50673.msg929505#msg929505

[El-Twin]

II've sorted it out now, but jeez did that thing like to stall.

How did you finally sort it out? Does a 14T + Termi slip-ons + break in miles = fix?

I'm concerned about this probably more than anything else, because I worry about stalling at an intersection, with traffic bearing down on me.

[El-Twin]

and we both have roughly equal riding skills and "dark pasts". 

Ha! I thought I sensed a dark past lurking. Too many miles on too many bikes will do that to you (or so I've heard). 

Read my intro thread and all will become clear.

That's quite a list of hardware to your credit.   

[RC Fan]

Decisions, decisions eh?  Not a bad problem to have though!

[El-Twin]

This is what surprises me most about all of the responses:

Not one forum member felt that the metal vs plastic tank issue was a worthy selection criteria.   

I think that this says a lot, but I'm not sure what. Brand loyalty?

Otherwise, thanks to the forum for a wealth of viewpoints and information.