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Author Topic: Clutch wheelies pass 1st gear  (Read 10262 times)
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« on: February 15, 2012, 03:21:11 PM »
So I've been doing wheelies for a couple weeks now, and I've found my balance point where I can hold it long enough to switch through the gears. However, I've been wondering why I can't clutch or power wheelie in 2nd, 3rd etc. gear. I ride a duc monster 1100 evo. I know it's not the Safest thing to do, but when the highway is empty I'd like to do some wheelies. Any ideas? It just sort of skids. Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2012, 03:47:43 PM »
practice practice practice...

my s4r would clutch up in third.
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 03:51:59 PM »
Weight shifts and timing. My 900 carbie would do it in 3rd @ 40mph.  gearing -1 front
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2012, 08:05:53 PM »
slipper clutch? i know my 796 wont pull up unless it gets eased in with power stupid slipper clutch, same reason why i cant pop the clutch to start the bike
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 09:09:01 PM »
That's not how a slipper clutch works, it only works on downshifts.   To keep the rear wheel from hopping.

If I beat my S4 hard enough in 3rd, it will loft the front.   2nd is no problem.
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2012, 03:29:29 PM »
Quote from: udiaz27 on February 15, 2012, 03:21:11 PM
So I've been doing wheelies for a couple weeks now, and I've found my balance point where I can hold it long enough to switch through the gears. However, I've been wondering why I can't clutch or power wheelie in 2nd, 3rd etc. gear. I ride a duc monster 1100 evo.

Your Evo should easily power wheelie in 2nd. Try short shifting from 1st to 2nd and then give it plenty of gas, and the front should lift easily.
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2012, 06:26:47 PM »
Quote from: derby on February 15, 2012, 03:47:43 PM
practice practice practice...

my s4r would clutch up in third.

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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 06:34:08 PM »
not going off topic, but how much snap or load can the chain, sprockets take? clutching it in 3rd wont hurt anything?
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2012, 09:04:20 PM »
Eh, increased wear, but don't expect an immediate catastrophic result.
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2012, 09:24:44 PM »
It depends.   If you are using an EK $20 chain, I'd worry about it.   I'm using a DID ZVM and I have no qualms whatsoever.   It's got about 15,000 miles on it, and I have not adjusted it once.   5 rear tires, pull the axle, shove the wheel forward, pull the chain off to the side, and reinstall without touching the adjusters.   Still the same tension as new.   And I do a lot of wheelies.
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2012, 07:01:42 AM »
Yeah, EK chains are horrible, mine stretched ridiculously every 1000 miles or so and eventually ate up my rear sprocket. Of course, I probably wouldn"t have as much trouble if I didn't ride full throttle everywhere.
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2012, 06:36:41 AM »
Quote from: wannabfast on February 15, 2012, 08:05:53 PM
slipper clutch? i know my 796 wont pull up unless it gets eased in with power stupid slipper clutch, same reason why i cant pop the clutch to start the bike

i can push-start my S2R800 with its slipper clutch just fine... user error? Tongue Grin
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« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2012, 09:32:02 PM »
slipper clutches wont bump start well. most slipper clutches (race ones anyway) come with a special pin that you use to lock the slipper so u can start it using the rear tire.

as for wheelies, my 944 would try to flip itself in 2nd for sure. never tried 3rd.

my S2R1k will only wheelie in 2nd if i pump it.

im too afraid to drop it to hold it for any real distance. Tongue what technique do you use? i always want to hear more about people wheelieing 2v monsters!
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« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2012, 10:21:43 PM »
The Adler Power Tourque Plate Clutch is not a slipper clutch.
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2012, 08:33:11 PM »
Quote from: cupcake on February 29, 2012, 10:21:43 PM
The Adler Power Tourque Plate Clutch is not a slipper clutch.

A little more info:
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/2004/146_04_ducati_aptc_clutch/index.html
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