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Author Topic: The Italian in my life is not talking to me  (Read 3598 times)
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2012, 03:45:08 AM »

sounds like a stuffed battery

me personally always use a battery tender

from experience from 916 days unless the battery is at 100% then you can have trouble starting , esp with hard wired headlights that are pulling 5+ amps
when you are trying to start the bike

along with the fact that motorcycle chargin circuits are marginal at best , they are just not designed to dump large currents into half flat batteries

a battery kept on the charger or topped up before riding will alst far longer as well as the charging circuit having a longer life , esp on hondas ,  my recent ebay purchase was a new in the box ducati shimdeng reg/rect , not for a if i need it but for a when i need it day bargain $65

this is good advice, as well as extending the life of your battery you are looking after the starter motor, as voltage drops amps drawn increase to compensate, this puts more heat through the wiring and assists in burning out starter brushes. a battery tender will save you a lot of grief if you don't ride everyday.
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2012, 04:08:16 AM »

Reading through everyone's responses makes me think I must be very lucky. I haven't changed the battery in my 1000s since I bought it 6 years ago!!! (Hope I haven't just jinxed mine as well  Lips Sealed)

I don't use a battery tender and I have let it sit for up to 5 months without starting and it started first go.

I did however have an immoboliser problem a fortnight ago whilst at the NDR in Jindabyne.  Bike had been sitting out in the rain all night (poor thing).  Nothing at all when I hit the starter button but all dash lights were fine. Wouldn't jump start.  Ended up having to rotate the key and spare around until it started.  Lucky I carry the spare with me these days.  waytogo

Like everyone else has said - it's under warranty - get them to fix it pronto!
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2012, 05:09:27 AM »

Reading through everyone's responses makes me think I must be very lucky. I haven't changed the battery in my 1000s since I bought it 6 years ago!!! (Hope I haven't just jinxed mine as well  Lips Sealed)

I don't use a battery tender and I have let it sit for up to 5 months without starting and it started first go.
haha you too huh? I let my bike sit in the shed during the winter months, although every couple of weeks I will put it on a trickle charge overnight... waytogo
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2012, 02:39:45 PM »

+1 never on a charger always starts.
Only just changed out the original battery six years old in the S2R
It was still working but last winter it was getting a little slow so
decided to re new  to avoid a break down.
Also after going through all the crap with the wife's 695 monster
last month ,all due to a failing cell causing amp spikes in a four year old battery which scorched the injector relay resulting in random shut downs. bang head $$$
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2012, 03:24:27 PM »

Sounds like most have had better luck than me with batteries which s good to hear, i was going to a bit a fault finding today, and if the battery is shot I will purchase a new one, anyone have any suggestions on where one may find aftermarket batteries in Sydney?

Interestingly I spoke to the dealer this morning and they said they wouldn't replace the Battery under warranty unless it's stuffed as a consequence of something else breaking so if all it is is a stuffed battery then I'll have to fork out the dollars...
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2012, 04:09:46 PM »

Interestingly I spoke to the dealer this morning and they said they wouldn't replace the Battery under warranty unless it's stuffed as a consequence of something else breaking so if all it is is a stuffed battery then I'll have to fork out the dollars...

garbage

i would remove the battery and take it to  a battery world and ask hem to load test it

read your warranty document !!!

saying unless it failed from something else is dubious


I do recall in cars the battery is under a 12 month and is pro rata which means since you got 2/3 of the ;ife out of it then you are entritled to a 1/3 refund

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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2012, 07:49:10 PM »



Interestingly I spoke to the dealer this morning and they said they wouldn't replace the Battery under warranty unless it's stuffed as a consequence of something else breaking so if all it is is a stuffed battery then I'll have to fork out the dollars...

typical dealer bullsh1t!
don't take it, they're lying to you hoping you will either buy a new battery from them or at the very least they don't have to fill out the warranty paperwork to get their stock replaced.
fair dinkum, i'm glad my newest bike is just out of warranty cause dealing with thieving pricks like that gives me an ulcer.
hope you're not in qld cause up here they're all as bad as each other!
thank god for independent shops like eurotwins and speedys
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2012, 07:49:18 PM »

That sounds dodgy to me.  The battery in our pug died after 2.5 years (3 year warranty), leaking electrolyte everywhere.

Pug dealer replaced it for nothing under warranty, and cleaned up the mess it made as well.

Now if only they could learn how to actually change filters, they'd be worth feeding.
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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2012, 09:07:21 PM »

haha you too huh? I let my bike sit in the shed during the winter months, although every couple of weeks I will put it on a trickle charge overnight... waytogo
+1 never on a charger always starts.
Only just changed out the original battery six years old in the S2R
They must have made a really good batch of batteries about 6 years ago I guess.  cheeky

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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2012, 10:46:44 PM »


not necessarilly,
what matters is the voltage drop as you start it, you can still maintain good volts but have bugger all cranking amps.
put a meter across the battery and hit the starter, if it falls below say 10v it's stuffed, if it holds it's voltage it's not the battery but more likely, as others have said a poor connection.

Beat me to it.

Volts might look okay, but the amps could be down. Could be a crook cell, which a simple volts reading wouldn't show.

If you haven't got a meter, take it to a battery joint.

All the best with it.

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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2012, 11:07:06 PM »

Well I Pulled the battery out yesterday, once I got the tank covers off I found that the bolts that hold on the fuel tank were missing (WTF). I guess these were not tightened enough when I had the DP ECU installed (by the dealer bang head)





I left the Duc on the operating table overnight and took the Battery down to Balmain Motorcycles repairs today. The guys load tested the battery and gave it two thumbs up waytogo, They even gave me a load test readout so I could take it back to the dealer as proof that something else on the bike is not working...I thought there was nothing to lose in checking all the connections before taking the bike back to the dealers so I went home to start some fault finding...

As a start I gave the boys at Dmoto a call...Within 30 seconds they concluded that having seen a few with the same problem the issue is probably with the earth connection that is located on the bottom left side of the engine behind the oil hose bracket, they even offered to fix it free if I bought the bike in so nothing but praises for those guys.....so I checked this connection and sure enough it was loose.....got it all back together and starts no problems.  applause

So with the benefit of hind sight.... anyone who has a new gen monster with starting issues… you can check the earth Connection first which is relatively easy to access.. prior to going to the next step and pulling of tank covers / tanks etc. to reach the battery
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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2012, 11:31:37 PM »

That's great news for you and typical news from Fraser (I'm guessing)
Sean does love a good earth issue, a while back my bike was checked for every earth connection.

So what about the missing bolts? Will you at least have them replaced by the dealer?
And then go to town about the fact they just brushed you away instead of wanting to take care of a customer.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2012, 12:29:34 AM »

yeah nice work luke,
shame you had to do all that running around cause your dealer was too lazy/stupid to help you out with a WARRANTY issue.
seriously, the amount of people i know who have given up on ducati and gone to another brand because of a severe lack of support from dealers and the importer is disgraceful.
glad it worked out for you mate.
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« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2012, 01:34:31 AM »

They werent ASSembling Ducatis in India around then were they!??  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2012, 02:19:57 AM »


    I'm glad your Italian is talking again, I really hate the silent treatment. Glad to be proven wrong for once, I thought for sure it was the battery.

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