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« Reply #105 on: April 28, 2012, 02:46:49 PM »

On Nicky Hayden...

Quote from: zooom on April 27, 2012, 03:21:26 AM

now...for the sake of arguement...take the spotlight off of Rossi for a moment...and see a moment of clarity and a touch of class...

http://superbikeplanet.com/2012/Apr/120426016.htm

wow. wow. Especially the last paragraph.

"The following is just a sketch: when all of the early teen Hayden kids were racing on the regional level and enjoyed sponsorships, as the season would close, the Hayden's would make quiet inquires as to what music each sponsor representative enjoyed listening to. Then, at the end of the season, a hand-written letter would arrive from the family, thanking the sponsor for their support. Along with the letter, would be a cassette tape of music that Earl and the kids had recorded off the radio for the sponsor to enjoy.

Not really the kind of people who throw their team under the bus, after the first race, or frankly, ever."
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http://superbikeplanet.com/2012/Apr/120426016.htm)


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Re: Rossi vs. Ducati

« Reply #106 on: April 28, 2012, 03:00:47 PM »

Quote from: Desmostro on April 28, 2012, 02:46:49 PM

On Nicky Hayden...

...would be a cassette tape of music that Earl and the kids had recorded off the radio for the sponsor to enjoy.

Recorded off the radio... Apparently Nicky is WAY older than I thought!


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Re: Rossi vs. Ducati

« Reply #107 on: April 28, 2012, 05:06:56 PM »

Quote from: triangleforge on April 28, 2012, 03:00:47 PM

Recorded off the radio... Apparently Nicky is WAY older than I thought!

Plus it was in Kentucky, so that is like 10 years behind the times (I can talk, I am from Iowa which is maybe 8 years behind Grin

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« Reply #108 on: April 30, 2012, 03:28:25 PM »

Nicky, Rossi, Casey, Capirex....I'm starting to wonder if the Duc isn't some sort of heroic challenge that past champions must pass through before entering MotoGP Valhalla.... coffee


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« Reply #109 on: April 30, 2012, 03:54:17 PM »

Quote from: OT on April 30, 2012, 03:28:25 PM

Nicky, Rossi, Casey, Capirex....I'm starting to wonder if the Duc isn't some sort of heroic challenge that past champions must pass through before entering MotoGP Valhalla.... coffee

what championship did casey win before ducati?


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« Reply #110 on: May 01, 2012, 03:21:19 AM »

Quote from: derby on April 30, 2012, 03:54:17 PM

what championship did casey win before ducati?

was it a 125 or a 250 class?...can't recall...


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« Reply #111 on: May 01, 2012, 03:23:48 AM »

Quote from: zooom on May 01, 2012, 03:21:19 AM

was it a 125 or a 250 class?...can't recall...

neither...

Casey's only championships were in OZ


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« Reply #112 on: May 01, 2012, 03:37:28 AM »

Quote from: ducpainter on May 01, 2012, 03:23:48 AM

neither...

Casey's only championships were in OZ

I thought he had won something or other in a 125 or 250 class in Europe when his family moved him for to race there....maybe I am wrong...I admit haze on the subject...


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Re: Rossi vs. Ducati

« Reply #113 on: May 01, 2012, 03:41:22 AM »

Quote from: zooom on May 01, 2012, 03:37:28 AM

I thought he had won something or other in a 125 or 250 class in Europe when his family moved him for to race there....maybe I am wrong...I admit haze on the subject...

Yeah...

He did win something in Britain.

I was, and I think derby was, referring to a world title.


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« Reply #114 on: May 01, 2012, 04:32:29 AM »

Quote from: ducpainter on May 01, 2012, 03:41:22 AM

Yeah...

He did win something in Britain.

I was, and I think derby was, referring to a world title.

toe-mae-toe...toe-mah-toe....he didn't say "world"...so I went on the "championship" end of things....LOL


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Re: Rossi vs. Ducati

« Reply #115 on: May 01, 2012, 04:43:14 AM »

Quote from: zooom on May 01, 2012, 04:32:29 AM

toe-mae-toe...toe-mah-toe....he didn't say "world"...so I went on the "championship" end of things....LOL

All the others mentioned held 'world' titles. Wink

whatever...Casey has matured into a world champion.

It's looking like he'll repeat with Honda.

Except this thread is about the old guy that is on his way out apparently.

I don't think it's because of a lack of talent or age.

He made some decisions based on ego, IMO, and they're biting him in the ass.


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« Reply #116 on: May 01, 2012, 04:46:34 AM »

for sure, Rossi thought he was better than Stoner and would prove it by riding the hell out of the Duc. NOPE. Didn't happen, so he tried to say the Duc was the problem, thing is, everyone already knew that. Now he make a bastardized Duc to suit his style and it still isn't right.
This all goes back to making a Ducati a Ducati and not a Japanese clone. Go back to what they know, so it handles the way a Ducati should.


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Re: Rossi vs. Ducati

« Reply #117 on: May 01, 2012, 06:21:36 AM »

Quote from: ducpainter on May 01, 2012, 04:43:14 AM

I don't think it's because of a lack of talent or age.

He made some decisions based on ego, IMO, and they're biting him in the ass.

agreed.

however i think the decisions may have been more about a vision for the perfect swansong than ego. he really had nothing left to prove in motorcycle racing. ago's record sure, but everyone knows he was riding 27 classes when he did that. hell, in 1 random day on the R1 2 years ago valentino was faster than the whole wsbk paddock. so they guy at the coffee shop, "why you no go ducati?" finally got to him. what a perfect way to end his motogp career, a 10th title on an italian marque. it's like a movie. ...may end up being straight to dvd however.

let's hope that abandoning the 90° gets him into the corners.


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« Reply #118 on: May 01, 2012, 06:31:50 AM »

The only one that needs a perfect swansong is someone with a huge ego.

The rest of us will just get scraped up off the floor when we're done. laughingdp

Rossi left Honda because of their claim that it was the bike.

I think Yourghey's rise at Yamaha and his salary, that was reported to equal or surpass Rossi's caused him to leave there...

along with this perfect scenario to end his career. [/end picking nits]


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Re: Rossi vs. Ducati

« Reply #119 on: May 01, 2012, 06:43:49 AM »

Quote from: ducpainter on May 01, 2012, 06:31:50 AM

I think Yourghey's rise at Yamaha and his salary, that was reported to equal or surpass Rossi's caused him to leave there...

along with this perfect scenario to end his career. [/end picking nits]

i think the yamaha money issue was more that they asked rossi to take a pay cut ("for the team") and he subsequently found out it funded lorenzo's increase.


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