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« Reply #285 on: August 12, 2012, 09:53:42 AM » |
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Its sad that after all the changes, the bike is essentially the same dog it was two years ago. They need a fresh perspective.
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« Reply #286 on: August 13, 2012, 05:15:39 AM » |
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"The difference between Theory and Practice is that in Theory there's no difference between the two.
In practice there is"
Preziosi needs to be shown the door. Casey said the bike sucked. Nicky said the bike sucked. It wasn't until the GOAT repeatedly said the bike sucked did they start to change.
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« Reply #287 on: August 13, 2012, 07:56:51 AM » |
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apparently if you charge them enough they start to listen.
Yup, it's why consulting works... Your employee: "our product sucks" - you either fire or ignore him Outside consultant: "your product sucks and here is your bill" - you go back and reengineer. And are impressed by how well and quickly the consultant came up with that result. |
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« Reply #288 on: August 13, 2012, 04:15:12 PM » |
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Yup, it's why consulting works...
That's funny because it's true. |
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« Reply #289 on: August 15, 2012, 06:31:33 AM » |
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Stoner put on his BIG BOY PANTS and just punched Rossi where it counts  . Hope this makes for a good race... http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2012/August/aug1512-stoner-slams-rossi-yamaha-return/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterSome of Stoner's comments: "Valentino got his best result in the dry virtually in his first race on the Ducati supposedly with shoulder injuries and I haven't seen any improvement over the past two years and this is disappointing. "I feel sorry for the people behind that bike. Valentino obviously doesn't want to push limits and ride a bike that is not perfect. He has admitted that. If he's had a bike that is that good in Yamaha before and hasn't had to push when the bike is not perfect then God knows how good that bike is. "Obviously he doesn't want to put the effort in with Ducati. It is disappointing for them that they're doing all they can and he is not even trying to get the best out of it. "There are certain riders in this paddock who have considered themselves test riders who can lead a manufacturer in the right direction and Valentino has certainly proved himself not to be the case with Ducati. It is just obvious that he needs an extremely good bike to be able to win. "It is blatantly obvious that he can't win with a Ducati and make it competitive so he's looking for the first option out. He said he wanted to finish his career with them and now he wants to jump ship.” |
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« Reply #290 on: August 15, 2012, 06:37:36 AM » |
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wow. |
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« Reply #291 on: August 15, 2012, 06:43:21 AM » |
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That's a kick in the shorts. That said, Stoner is right about one thing... they are two totally different riders. Not the biggest Stoner fan but he could put a little kid's Big Wheel on the podium if he had to. Bigger Rossi fan but I don't see him doing that...
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« Reply #292 on: August 15, 2012, 06:45:41 AM » |
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wouldn't it be nice if Rossi took those comments to heart and turned on something extra inside and got into a fairing bashing result with Stoner?
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« Reply #293 on: August 15, 2012, 07:01:20 AM » |
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wouldn't it be nice if Rossi took those comments to heart and turned on something extra inside and got into a fairing bashing result with Stoner?
Any TRUE competitor would take those comments to heart and try whether he succeeds or fail to do something big. Playing competitive sports all my life, if anyone said that about me and my work ethic I'd be out for blood and I don't have a 2-wheeled death machine at my disposal. |
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« Reply #294 on: August 15, 2012, 07:07:14 AM » |
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...even more sad now that Stoner is retiring. This could have been very interesting with Rossi back on a good bike.
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« Reply #295 on: August 15, 2012, 07:10:51 AM » |
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would have be MORE better  if Stoner comes out of retirement and kicks Rossi's tail while riding a ..... Duc |
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« Reply #296 on: August 15, 2012, 07:29:28 AM » |
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IDEA!!!
Audi hires Davide Tardozzi to be their direct consultant to oversee the Ducati process and offer direct feedback on what can and should be changed within Corse!
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« Reply #297 on: August 15, 2012, 08:53:53 AM » |
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I agree with most of what Stoner said.
In fact, looking back, I think VR/JB and Ducati have screwed the bike up worse than it was in 2010.
It seems like they were making so many big changes, and such a fast pace, that they forgot the scientific method - understanding what the changes did in small steps.
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« Reply #298 on: August 15, 2012, 09:09:31 AM » |
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Its all starting to take shape. Stoner will retire, try the "relaxing, fun things" during the 2013 season, realize he is in his prime and has the rest of his life to race carts, sip cocktails around the barbie and go fishing. The itch will return, the itch to tame a slutty, italian machine with attitude because he is the only one that can. Casey just doesn't realize what his true talent is yet. Stoner back to Ducati 2014.....its the Bayliss/Ducati relationship if Troy were 15yrs younger. Ducati has a thing for Aussies who win championships on their bikes. This is not the last time we will see Casey racing on two wheels or involved with Ducati....print it  |
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« Reply #299 on: August 15, 2012, 09:12:33 AM » |
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I just don't see Stoner going back to Ducati. He has stated he liked his team, but thinks upper management are a bunch of liars, due to how they handled the Lorenzo issue.
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