S4RS on the dyno

Started by Dockstrada, June 25, 2008, 04:20:32 AM

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Dockstrada

Had the S4RS on the dyno few week ago and finaly worked out how to post the results  [thumbsup]

If I wasn't who i was, I wouldn't be who I am !

R_usty

Nice smooth lines Doc - I will have to take mine to Dave one day too!
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DosVerde

Looks good Doc, a very healthy donk. Are you getting that just with the Full Termis, DP ECU and Air Filter?


Big T

For comparison to your chart Dock.....

This was done at Flywheels with:

RED:
~ Full Zards
~ Stock ECU
~ Stock Airbox

BLUE:
~ Full Zards
~ DP ECU
~ DP Open Airbox



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Dockstrada

#4
Quote from: R_usty on June 25, 2008, 04:27:41 AM
Nice smooth lines Doc - I will have to take mine to Dave one day too!

He is quite a good guy, He said he could have bumped it up maybe another 5% by removing the SAE corrections but that would only support you ego and not the true facts.

according to the AMCN he has the most accurate dyno around let me know whe you wanta go [thumbsup]


Quote from: Big T on June 25, 2008, 05:00:17 AM
For comparison to your chart Dock.....

This was done at Flywheels with:

RED:
~ Full Zards
~ Stock ECU
~ Stock Airbox

BLUE:
~ Full Zards
~ DP ECU
~ DP Open Airbox



Hey Big T you got some big poneys under the bonnet [thumbsup]
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If I wasn't who i was, I wouldn't be who I am !

Dockstrada

Quote from: DosVerde on June 25, 2008, 04:48:11 AM
Looks good Doc, a very healthy donk. Are you getting that just with the Full Termis, DP ECU and Air Filter?



Yeh just ECU,open box , air filter, full system, I also would like to mention i run only unleded so maybe a bit more hp with premium fuel. [thumbsup]
If I wasn't who i was, I wouldn't be who I am !

NorDog

#6
Mine's not as pretty, but I did get 137.7 HP.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/nordog59/S4RSDynoChartwithoutnamelf.jpg

[UPDATE: I replaced the image with the link; little better graphic that way and doesn't take up room on the page here.]
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Dockstrada

#7
Quote from: NorDog on June 25, 2008, 03:51:19 PM
Mine's not as pretty, but I did get 137.7 HP.



Ok just cleared some thing up with Dave, as I have been told there are 2 standards STD and SAE, He didn’t want to get into the complete explanation as he didn't have a all day.

STD not meaning standard hp on the side of you data sheet, this is the old out dated standard maybe 15years out of date.

SAE is the new standard when I say new been around for yonks which allows for all of the corrections including EN :engine friction with temperature ,also didn't have a all day to explain.

So if I was to run my monster on a STD dyno today I would probably be achieving an extra 8% . something about allowing for ram air which we don’t have.
but that not fact there is no correction included for the STD standard.


If I wasn't who i was, I wouldn't be who I am !

NorDog

Gee, isn't engine friction already taken into account since the dyno measures at the rear wheel?
A man in passion rides a mad horse. -- Ben Franklin


Dockstrada

Quote from: NorDog on June 25, 2008, 06:55:24 PM
Gee, isn't engine friction already taken into account since the dyno measures at the rear wheel?

As logic would make you believe ,but as he said its not a simple explanation so I just take his word for it.He knows his job i know mine [thumbsup]
If I wasn't who i was, I wouldn't be who I am !

NorDog

Quote from: Dockstrada on June 25, 2008, 07:07:43 PM
As logic would make you believe ,but as he said its not a simple explanation so I just take his word for it.He knows his job i know mine [thumbsup]

Well, I Googled it, and he's right.  Seems to have something to do with the correction factors used to have the measurement at a standard of atmospheric conditions.  Apparently, the STD correction is less, ah, penalizing than the SAE correction.

So, not sure what my 137.7 STD HP would be in SAE HP.  But the S4RS rips nonetheless.  The full termignoni exhuast kit has certainly helped.
A man in passion rides a mad horse. -- Ben Franklin


Dockstrada

#11
Quote from: NorDog on June 25, 2008, 07:49:22 PM
Well, I Googled it, and he's right.  Seems to have something to do with the correction factors used to have the measurement at a standard of atmospheric conditions.  Apparently, the STD correction is less, ah, penalizing than the SAE correction.

So, not sure what my 137.7 STD HP would be in SAE HP.  But the S4RS rips nonetheless.  The full termignoni exhuast kit has certainly helped.

Goes with out saying the S4RS is an animal as standard 119.9 RW/HP SAE,

Tickle it in its personal bits and it becomes a demon
If I wasn't who i was, I wouldn't be who I am !

Big T

#12
Quote from: Dockstrada on June 25, 2008, 09:29:58 PM
Tickle it in its personal bits and it becomes a demon

And my Monster now tickles me back...... Got to love that......  ;D
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Jukie

so the new seat feels really good does it Big T ;)
Before Honda CB125N
          Suzuki GS125
Now.   Ducati 620ie
          Lambretta Li150
          Ducati S4RT

JDS 07 S4Rs

Getting a little confussed guys. "Big T" #s are from the flywheel. "Nordog & Dock" are your #s from the back wheel. I am assuming they are !
Different Dyno's, different temps & altitude will affect the readings a little (from what I have read) Winpep Dyno's are at the Rear wheel,, right?

Either way,,, "Big T" made a huge improvement with Zards & DP ECU,,,,,,,,, just thinking out loud while typeing.
I sure would like to see someone post some #s like those with a Powercommand/Rapid Bike/Dynojet,, or any other after market programmer.  :)
2007 S4RS
2007 1098S Salvage Title (that's it. NO MORE BIKES)
02 GSXR 750 Trackbike - Ins Write/off
06 ZX636R Trackbike  - Ins Write-off (I couldnt help it, the price was right)
2003 BMW 1150R
2004 450 YZ
&,,, a few others :-)