2013 Silly Season?...maybe spoilers

[Triple J]

On the other hand, Hayden wasn't doing anything to fix the bike. If anybody fixes it, Rossi/Burgess will be the ones to do it funded by a deep wallet (Audi).

Sure he was...he was testing the hell out of it for them. I'm guessing he had some ideas as well.

[koko64]

True, but who says they would listen to Nicky?. It's all about Rossi. The Rossicentric paradigm is giving me the shits. Nicky would podium regularly on a Yamaha or Honda. Maybe Suzuki might save his GP career?

On that note, both Suzuki and Ducati were mistaken straying too far from what they know. Ducati are building to the rules and a tyre. I blame the tyre rules.  Remember  when a tyre was built for the bike? The control tyre causes technical convergance, I liked the technical variety with tyres built to suit.  It's the technical interest that makes GP what it is.

[Triple J]

True, but who says they would listen to Nicky?. It's all about Rossi. The Rossicentric paradigm is giving me the shits. Nicky would podium regularly on a Yamaha or Honda. Maybe Suzuki might save his GP career?

On that note, both Suzuki and Ducati were mistaken straying too far from what they know. Ducati are building to the rules and a tyre. I blame the tyre rules.  Remember  when a tyre was built for the bike? The control tyre causes technical convergance, I liked the technical variety with tyres built to suit.  It's the technical interest that makes GP what it is.

Agreed. According to Rossi they aren't even listening to him.

[OT]

Nicky is a solid employee, doing what's expected of him and what he's paid for.  Solid employees get shown the door all the time, unfortunately, to make room for the "new kid in town".

Ducati's investing in Crutchlow not so much for next year but for the bike that they're hoping Audi/Ducati/Rossi will produce.  By then, Hayden would be 33-34 and, in their eyes, too old.

I agree with all of you - Nicky will have a lot of fun, and success, in WSBK.  He's a better rider, imo, than most of the guys over there right now.

[koko64]

Those of us  brought up old school, hate seeing this stuff. Honour is a dying concept nowdays and I've always respected Nicky. At least he has been world champion.

[MadDuck]

Those of us  brought up old school, hate seeing this stuff. Honour is a dying concept nowdays and I've always respected Nicky. At least he has been world champion.

+1 to that.

Good on Nicky if he gets a ride over in WSBK. I'd like to see Colin Edwards over there too.  I'm just about done watching the MotoGP BS anyway. The series is in a death spiral.

[zooom]

imagine if you would for a minute...Nicky does go to WSBK...does VERY well ( maybe even gives a serious run for a title for real within a 2 year deal on a works bike)...CRT takes over GP and all the olde guard come to WSBK while CRT-GP becomes the graduated Moto2 landing zone to decrease the 30+ bike Moto2 grid and increase the CRT-GP grid....real possibility?

[Raux]

2013 WSBK Ducati 1199 - Checa/Hayden 

[duccarlos]

2013 WSBK Ducati 1199 - Checa/Hayden 

+1

[thought]

2013 WSBK Ducati 1199 - Checa/Hayden  

Thats what I'm thinking too... and I wonder if they could move back to a CF frame with the 1199 just to see if it would work.  I'd be happier seeing Hayden on a competitive WSBK bike vs a craptastic MotoGP bike.

[zooom]

Thats what I'm thinking too... and I wonder if they could move back to a CF frame with the 1199 just to see if it would work.   

can't do that unless they homologate a CF frame 1199R version with CF frame due to the homologation rules....

[duccarlos]

can't do that unless they homologate a CF frame 1199R version with CF frame due to the homologation rules....

Are we already assuming that the frameless 1199 will be shitty?

[thought]

Are we already assuming that the frameless 1199 will be shitty?

I actually think it'll do pretty well... maybe not the first teething year as it's totally new tech for them but it should give the bmw/ape/kawi a run for it's money in the straights now.

I just hope that the loss of lower end torque wont change the nature of the bike too much for the WSBK riders.

And I think we'll almost def see a 1199r.

[Triple J]

2013 WSBK Ducati 1199 - Checa/Hayden 

+2 

[zooom]

Are we already assuming that the frameless 1199 will be shitty?

no...just saying that since that portion of the bike is technically the frame and you have to have a homologated frame for to race with....in order to have a legally racable CF framed bike, they'de have to homologate a CF framed bike, which would most likely be incarnated in an "R" spec model...