2013 Silly Season?...maybe spoilers

[gm2]

No surprise there.

not really, but i am surprised it was so early

[gm2]

http://www.motomatters.com/news/2012/06/12/lucio_cecchinello_on_the_complications_c.html

[zooom]

I have a silly thought....since Marquez is so damn reckless and boneheaded at times...lets say he doesn't win the Moto2 crown this year...and it is thought best for him to stay in Moto2 to hone his racecraft for another year until contractually, a seat opens up for him to more easily advance to the next class...Marquez problem solved!

[gm2]

I have a silly thought....since Marquez is so damn reckless and boneheaded at times...lets say he doesn't win the Moto2 crown this year...and it is thought best for him to stay in Moto2 to hone his racecraft for another year until contractually, a seat opens up for him to more easily advance to the next class...Marquez problem solved!

 - you can be guaranteed he's not staying in moto2 past this year
 - aggressive/boneeheaded or not, there's nothing wrong with his racecraft.  obviously, he needs to keep maturing.  but another year in moto2 would be a waste
 - all that said, let's say he stays, the 4 bikes per OEM rule gets put in place, the rookie rule stands.. then there is no 'more easily advance'.  he & the whole paddock still have the exact same problem next year.

that's a really interesting article.  the rookie rule makes sense, except when it doesn't.  everyone knows marquez is not just marquez, it's an entire team.  and sponsors.  so either the 4 bike rule gets delayed and honda gives him a 1-bike team for a year or else all of LCR or half of Gresini get totally displaced for a year.  quite a puzzle.

 

[Spidey]

No surprise there.

I'm surprised.  Not that he resigned, but that it was so early.  Did he even entertain the GIANT offer that Honda must have made him?

[zooom]

Maybe Marquez then rides a CRT for a year until he can board a factory Repsol machine...

[gm2]

I'm surprised.  Not that he resigned, but that it was so early.  Did he even entertain the GIANT offer that Honda must have made him?

Yamaha 'made great efforts to retain me'

he's always said it's not about the $.  but sure it is, somewhat.  evidently the $ they were able to offer him was close enough.  bc it really doesn't make sense for him to switch.

plus, you know marquez is going to Repsol.  HRC has said no way 2 spanish riders.  so maybe if there was a Repsol offer it was only for 1 year.  and then if he had gone, what happens in 2014?

yamaha is the best place for him.  and, he's winning.

 

 

[gm2]

Maybe Marquez then rides a CRT for a year until he can board a factory Repsol machine...

no way the Repsol golden boy is going to be on anything less than a factory-spec RC213V next year, regardless of the team.

Repsol and all of Spain are standing there wringing their hands, pent up since 2006.  cuz Mallorca is close but it aint really Spain.
 

[duccarlos]

He's going to MotoGP next year, even though he should have moved up this year. Anyway, a CRT option would have been nice sponsored by Repsol, but in the same way, Repsol would not pay big $$$ for a back marker. I don't see how you can have a rookie rule AND a limit on how many bikes a manufacturer provides. That just forces you into a corner, you can't develop new talent and sign someone like the aliens long term. You would almost need to increase the manufacturers. So they would need to beg Suzuki, Kawasaki and Aprilia to come back. That would open up some space, but they would still be backmarkers.

So many silly thoughts.

[DanTheMan]

I don't see how you can have a rookie rule AND a limit on how many bikes a manufacturer provides.

i guess limiting the number of bikes fixes the loophole in the poorly written rookie rule. If he gets his own ride it will be on a factory spec bike, so even though he's not under the HONDA factory team, he is on a "factory bike". so this bypasses the intent of the rookie rule to allow top talent to go to satellite teams.

 Where as Honda has the money to fully support another factory bike, where as other MFR's do not.

[duccarlos]

I understand that Dorna doesn't want to turn MotoGP into the Honda Cup, but in the same fashion, why would you care if they can field 6 Hondas? Yamaha has already said that 4 is their limit. It's not like the other manufacturers are jumping over themselves to get back in. At this point I'll take what I can get. The problem would be with the sponsors. Repsol is unlikely to sponsor anything less than a factory bike.

[DanTheMan]

Repsol is unlikely to sponsor anything less than a factory bike.

I wouldn't either, if your not on a factory bike, you don't have a chance of winning. Give the satellite bikes (and Ducati's) 1,000,000:1 odds on winning and i wouldn't waste a dollar. Unless its raining. Dorna needs to lessen (don't know how they would do this) the contrast between factory (honda-honda, and yami-yami) bikes and satellite to get some better racing.

[duccarlos]

That's why they're trying to change the rules. Almost like dumbing down the series. How do you make the "show" more fun and even without completely ruining the concept of prototype bikes?

[desmoquattro]

That's why they're trying to change the rules. Almost like dumbing down the series. How do you make the "show" more fun and even without completely ruining the concept of prototype bikes?

[zooom]

Dorna needs to lessen (don't know how they would do this) the contrast between factory (honda-honda, and yami-yami) bikes and satellite to get some better racing.

Dorna needs to suggest that the manu's make their motors available for lease/sale at a signifigant rate difference to a whole bike, so that potentially a(for example) Suter chassis can bolt in a Yammie or Honda motor and race as a CRT/Satelite machine...or something of that nature....there would be less of a gap like a lower class in that kind of format....