Is Ducati developing a liquid-cooled Hypermotard?

[muskrat]

one thing is certain IMO, they better fix that exhaust crossing in front of the riders leg and the big f...in can that likes like shit.

[thought]

Maybe the MTS848 wont be a straight MTS1200 with a 848 11degree engine... maybe it's some sort of mts/hym hybrid?  like a touring hym?  848 engine, hyper frame, mts suspension and touring additions?

the reasoning behind this might be because the mtw1200 frame/body is too large and heavy for the 848 for performance?

[wannabfast]

one thing is certain IMO, they better fix that exhaust crossing in front of the riders leg and the big f...in can that likes like shit.

yea the current monsters are like that right now.. its not that bad, its the not as bad as the rear pipe, but its fine when you are moving

[teddy037.3]

that's a stroodle frame, not the tard...



if it makes production, then god damn you ducati!!! let me pay this damn bike off first!!!!  

[wannabfast]

new st4?

[Travman]

that's a stroodle frame, not the tard...

Isn't the current Hyper based off of the DS1100 Multistrada.  If so, then it would make sense for the next generation Hyper to also share the frame of the current Multi.

[muskrat]

A sport tourer would make sense.   
Right now I would choose an FJR or Honda 1200. 

[DRKWNG]

Isn't the current Hyper based off of the DS1100 Multistrada.  If so, then it would make sense for the next generation Hyper to also share the frame of the current Multi.

Especially if they're going water cooled with it.

[teddy037.3]

Isn't the current Hyper based off of the DS1100 Multistrada.  If so, then it would make sense for the next generation Hyper to also share the frame of the current Multi.

given ducati's lineup history/trends, a middleweight multi makes more sense. new bikes start big, then mid-sized come out to fill in the gaps.

with the new 848SF out*, an 848MTS would be better suited to take on the F800GS over a watercooled tard...

*:edit:

Especially if they're going water cooled with it.

the SFs certainly fill in the category for a hooligan bike... if they're really going to phase out aircooleds, I can see them eventually dropping the tard

[DRKWNG]

the SFs certainly fill in the category for a hooligan bike... if they're really going to phase out aircooleds, I can see them eventually dropping the tard

Yeah, but not in the same vein.  The Streetfighter bikes, while fun as hell, are no where near the same sort of lunacy that a motard (like) bike brings.  It wouldn't actually surprise me to see the Hyper go liquid cooled.  They've (Ducati) have consistently been spanked by liquid cooled motard-like bikes (think KTM and Aprilia) overseas, so why not join them?  And if they go that route there, it only makes sense to follow in the same direction here.

[wannabfast]

the new audi bike?

[teddy037.3]

Yeah, but not in the same vein.  The Streetfighter bikes, while fun as hell, are no where near the same sort of lunacy that a motard (like) bike brings.  It wouldn't actually surprise me to see the Hyper go liquid cooled.  They've (Ducati) have consistently been spanked by liquid cooled motard-like bikes (think KTM and Aprilia) overseas, so why not join them?  And if they go that route there, it only makes sense to follow in the same direction here.

true, but given how well received the new stroodle has been been, a midweight adventure seems a closer fit into the model line, vs. a brand new tard.

I could see them maybe putting out an 848MTS, and later stripping it down to be the new tard when it's time to update, but if they really wanted to release a 4v tard, they'd find a way to cram the motor into the tard's frame to keep the look consistent, just like how they did with the monster.

[Raux]

The diff between a tard and mts.
Fuel cap and range
seat size and comfort
storage cap
wind potection
seating position and ergos
weight

From a design standpoint none of those are a simple change so they have to be different bikes

[Greg]

I have heard that increasing noise & CO emmision limits may end up killing the air cooled engine. Even Harley has a new patent on a watercooled twin.  I just hate that all the bikes in ducatis line up are ending up using the same engine, not that the 11 degree testa is a bad engine, but bikes like the hyper  & the monster need a torquier engine like the single cam air cooled motor.  Maybe a single cam water cooled if the air cooled motor can no longer meet emmision standards.  I am still holding out hope for a big bore testa air cooled with 3 valve heads.

Here is a quote from Ducati San Antonio's Facebook page

"DNA states this is the last year for the 2v air cooled engines. All bikes are to be water cooled for 2013. We will see..."

[Travman]

Here is a quote from Ducati San Antonio's Facebook page

"DNA states this is the last year for the 2v air cooled engines. All bikes are to be water cooled for 2013. We will see..."

So the Hypers and Monsters won't be sold next year.    Dealers will say a lot things because they want to sell the models on their sales floor.