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Has anyone fitted 5 spoke rims on a 796 or 1100?
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May 23, 2012, 05:45:39 PM »
has anyone fitted 5 spoke rims from the other ducati models onto a 796 or 1100? I love the 5 spoke look, I just dont have the dough for carbon fiber rims (nor do I need carbon fiber rims).
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this should be in A&M...
I'm assuming you're asking about the S2R wheels? the rears ought to fit right up; I have no idea if they changed the axle and whatnot up front, though
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Re: Has anyone fitted 5 spoke rims on a 796 or 1100?
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i think they did. my dealer said they would need spacers.. but even he didnt know what exactly was needed. Thatw why i was curiious if anyone had done it.
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Re: Has anyone fitted 5 spoke rims on a 796 or 1100?
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The front axle on recent (10+ years) Monsters and SBK is a 25mm hollow type. The older wheels (748, 996, ST2, ST4, S2r, S4r) use 6-bolts for the rotors, newer ones (749, 999, ST4s, Monster S4RS) use 5 bolts. While the axle is the same, spacers, rotor offset (10mm vs 15mm) and forks are different.
The above goes for bikes with a 65mm (non radial) caliper mount. I don't know what the measurements are for bikes with radial calipers (848, M1100). But I think they are the same as the 749, 999, etc.
NOT
the S2r, S4r.
Finally the rear hub: 748, 916, 996, S2r, S4r (and I think Hypermotard and 2V Multistrada) all share the same hub and axle size. I know the 1098 & 1198 have a larger hub for the bigger axle, I don't know what size the M1100, M796 & 848 have, but I'm willing to bet they have the smaller one.
You can go on the Ducati Omaha site (
http://www.ducatiomaha.com/products.asp
) and look at the parts numbers to see which ones are the same.
You can also check with the vendors since they should know which wheels fit the different models. This is what I found from the motowheels site for M1100 wheels:
http://motowheels.com/c-181223-parts-wheels-tires-wheels.html
From what I understand I think you have two options:
1. Buy a set of after market 5-spoke wheels (Carrozzeria, OZ, ... ) that fit your bike. The will not look the same as the Marchesini 5-spokes, but they
should fit easily
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2. But a set of stock 5-spoke Ducati wheels and fit them to your bike. You might also need the stock rotors, calipers, axle and spacers, forks, and maybe even the triples.
Hope this helps!
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Re: Has anyone fitted 5 spoke rims on a 796 or 1100?
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Mad king, thanks for all your advice. If you justy price USED s4r rims, plus the cost to powder coat them black, im inthe range of 1200.00 dollars. That doesnt factor in, if I need anything else. rotors, etc, etc. It sounds like im potentintially running the risk of spending alot of money, on older equipment.. almost like downgrading.
It seems to make for financial and performance sense to just purchase OZ forged aluminum rims, which will run around 1800 for the set, and be a straight swap.. and already be painted black?
Am i missing anything with this logic?
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Re: Has anyone fitted 5 spoke rims on a 796 or 1100?
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May 29, 2012, 02:50:09 PM »
couple customer bikes with 5 spoke OZ wheels:
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Re: Has anyone fitted 5 spoke rims on a 796 or 1100?
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May 29, 2012, 04:05:08 PM »
moto, those are gorgeous. whats a pair running? This seems like the way to go.
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Re: Has anyone fitted 5 spoke rims on a 796 or 1100?
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Quote from: polivo on May 29, 2012, 04:05:08 PM
moto, those are gorgeous. whats a pair running? This seems like the way to go.
I was about to say... you need to check out the
pentas
piegas... if I wasn't so smitten on the ten spoke Y's, I'd totally be, er, wanting to throw those wheels on my bike
also, hint: go to motowheels.com and start shopping
or not. your wallet will hate you in the morning.
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Re: Has anyone fitted 5 spoke rims on a 796 or 1100?
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OZs
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Quote from: polivo on May 29, 2012, 04:05:08 PM
moto, those are gorgeous. whats a pair running? This seems like the way to go.
OZ Motorbike Piega Forged Aluminum Front Wheel: Ducati (S4RS, M796, M1100, MTS1200, Hyper, D16RR, SF, 749, 999, & 848-1198)
$777.47
OZ Motorbike Piega Forged Aluminum Rear Wheel: Ducati (S2R, S4R, M796, M1100, Hyper, Multi 1000/1100, MH900E, SF 848, 748-998, & 848)
$1,222.48
The OZ wheels look good , but they are also very light. These forged aluminum wheels weigh about the same as the Marchesini 5 spoke
magnesium
wheels.
They will make a big difference in handling and braking performance over the original wheels.
** Register as a VIP member on the Motowheels website and save a bunch of money on these wheels and other products.
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Re: Has anyone fitted 5 spoke rims on a 796 or 1100?
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Please someone correct me if im wrong.... My buddy has an S4R and ive got a 796. We were working on the bikes and i wanted to check myself if his wheels would fit. Obviously the rear will. As for the front, we really didnt want to completely dismantle the brakes on either bike due to the amount of time. Now, that being said.... I made some measurements. I measured all of the following: Axle size, Distance between each rotor at the farthest outer edge and the most inner edge (as close to the hub as possible,) hub width and spacing between the hub and the edge of the fork. I did this on BOTH bikes and each spot I measured was the EXACT same on each bike. Therefor, if im not mistaken, The front wheels should be able to swap. The only stipulation would be that the 796 rotors would have to stay with the 796 wheel, and the S4R rotors with the S4R wheel due to the 5 and 6 bolt difference. Does this sound legit to you? I am REALLY wanting to swap my 796 wheels for S4R wheels.... I might have to go completely through the hastle of swapping them fully before i can be correct to the final detail..... What do you think?
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Re: Has anyone fitted 5 spoke rims on a 796 or 1100?
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id go through the full swap to check if no one responds.
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have you tried this yet... .reaaaaally interested.
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Quote from: Anchorism on August 27, 2012, 06:25:57 AM
Please someone correct me if im wrong.... My buddy has an S4R and ive got a 796. We were working on the bikes and i wanted to check myself if his wheels would fit. Obviously the rear will. As for the front, we really didnt want to completely dismantle the brakes on either bike due to the amount of time. Now, that being said.... I made some measurements. I measured all of the following: Axle size, Distance between each rotor at the farthest outer edge and the most inner edge (as close to the hub as possible,) hub width and spacing between the hub and the edge of the fork. I did this on BOTH bikes and each spot I measured was the EXACT same on each bike. Therefor, if im not mistaken, The front wheels should be able to swap. The only stipulation would be that the 796 rotors would have to stay with the 796 wheel, and the S4R rotors with the S4R wheel due to the 5 and 6 bolt difference. Does this sound legit to you? I am REALLY wanting to swap my 796 wheels for S4R wheels.... I might have to go completely through the hastle of swapping them fully before i can be correct to the final detail..... What do you think?
The offsets are different on the rotors.
Adapters would be required.
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Re: Has anyone fitted 5 spoke rims on a 796 or 1100?
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what is the offset because the 696/796 and 1100 (non-S) are 10mm although the 796 and evo are 5-bolts
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