Moto GP Round 5 Gran Premi Aperol de Catalunya SPOILERS

[Triple J]

Moto 2 

That was a shit move by Marquez. I don't think running into Pol was intentional, but given the overall situation Marquez needs to leave some room after his near crash. Even if he doesn't see/feel that someone is there, he has to suspect it given that he was in traffic and obviously slowed, and leave a little bit of room. He should have seen Pol though...he had the line and was completely beside Marquez.

[duccarlos]

Seems that both Rossi and Stoner disagree with race control giving Marquez the minute penalty.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/100106

If Pol was on the racing line, it is Marquez' responsibility to safely get back in.

[swampduc]

 
Can't believe they penalized him! Must be 'cuz he took out a Spaniard, in Spain no less 

[gm2]

Seems that both Rossi and Stoner disagree with race control giving Marquez the minute penalty.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/100106

If Pol was on the racing line, it is Marquez' responsibility to safely get back in.

This: "He was in front and it was impossible to see Espargaro."  everyone saying he's an asshole, what, did he forget to check his mirrors?

[gm2]

On the other hand, what a pity for Ben. He finally got a good start

yeah .  and he was obviously being held up by dani.

another zero in the books but nice to see him pushing again at least.  the ride back to 10th was fun.. incl that pass on barbera.  he was pissed.

[swampduc]

This: "He was in front and it was impossible to see Espargaro."  everyone saying he's an asshole, what, did he forget to check his mirrors?

If you're that far off the line, is it not your responsibility to make sure you don't kill anybody reentering?

[Triple J]

This: "He was in front and it was impossible to see Espargaro."  everyone saying he's an asshole, what, did he forget to check his mirrors?

He knew he was in tight traffic with 3 others (1 behind him), then went wide. Even if he didn't see Espargaro, he should have left a bit of room as it was reasonable to assume he'd be there. There was no reason to dive all the way to the apex anyway...leaving a foot or two wouldn't have made a difference.

I don't 100% believe he didn't see him anyway. Espargaro was fully along side him when Marquez hit him. You usually see a wheel long before that when someone passes you. I think Marquez saw him coming in his periphery and tried to shut the door.

He got away with his BS braking move a couple races ago on Luthi, so for the two incidents combined I think the penalty is deserved.

[wantingaduc]

The expression on the face of the yamaha prez when spies went down did not bode well at all for his contract next year.

I thought the same thing watching it on Speed.
It might have been the day that cost him his ride.

I agree that maybe "The Ben" should go back to WSBK, and hopefully take Hayden, Rossi and Colin with him.
 

[ducpainter]

This: "He was in front and it was impossible to see Espargaro."  everyone saying he's an asshole, what, did he forget to check his mirrors?

It's always impossible to see if you don't look.

He knew Espagaro would be there. He was hoping he'd get there first so his front wheel wouldn't take a hit.

He was right....it just didn't work out in the long run.

[manwithgun]

Can't believe they penalized him! Must be 'cuz he took out a Spaniard, in Spain no less 

I'm pretty sure it was overturned by the stewards a few hours later.   Marquez retains 2nd in the championship....

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/100112

[swampduc]

I'm pretty sure it was overturned by the stewards a few hours later.   Marquez retains 2nd in the championship....

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/100112

Sigh. Shocking.

[duccarlos]

Sigh. Shocking.

Rep$ol. Enough said. It was and will continue to be a douchbag move. In every trackday I have been involved in, they have pushed it into my brain to be mindful of staying on the racing line. If you're off the line, it is your responsibility to reenter safely. Apparently Marquez never learned that lesson.

[derby]

Rep$ol. Enough said. It was and will continue to be a douchbag move. In every trackday I have been involved in, they have pushed it into my brain to be mindful of staying on the racing line. If you're off the line, it is your responsibility to reenter safely. Apparently Marquez never learned that lesson.

trackday != racing

[gm2]

it is your responsibility to reenter safely. Apparently Marquez never learned that lesson.

in general i don't disagree with the first part there, of course.  and marquez sure as hell makes some questionable moves from time to time.

but watch it again: half his move back to the racing line was involuntary.  he lost the front, picked it up with his elbow, and when it re-gained traction it tossed him back toward the apex.  and he was in front.  granted by that point pol was traveling much faster.

racing incident.

[lazylightnin717]

That is such bullshit! Don't give me any "I couldn't see him" crap

At that level of racing he should know well enough not to come flying the make the beast with two backs back in there like Sea Biscuit... Especially after someone has been chasing him down for 21 freakin' laps. What did he think was going to happen?