Tire Pressure

Started by viviano.v, July 25, 2012, 11:29:16 AM

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viviano.v

Hi Everyone,

Perhaps a couple of boring subjects but, necessary and useful ones.

I have a Ducati Monster 400cc  (special bike made only for the japanese market) Im looking at what is the exact tire pressure I should have on my tiers..
I guess that depends on the brand of tire and tread that you have on the bike regardless of the bike engine, because I read this website database which I assume is basing the info off of the stock tires: http://www.drivegreen.com/Motorcycle_Tire_Pressure_ducati.htm

I have the following tires, which Im sure are not the stock factory tires:  DUNLOP 120/60 R 
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JEFF_H

tire pressure should be in your owners manual, you can download them from ducati back to 2000

i run 32 front, 34 rear

MikeZ

I've always followed the pressures in the owners manual or info stickers in my bikes and cages.
'03 M1000Sie (in need of a bath), '71 Honda CB500 (the Project), '10 Tiger (the tourer)

viviano.v

Manual is in Japanese :(

But I would expect it would not make sense to follow the manaual if the tires are not stock right?
because the previous owner could have put on some thicker or thinner tires no?


v

MikeZ

I think the pressure is on the frame sticker too.
Don't think tire thickness matters.  Just follow the sticker or manual
'03 M1000Sie (in need of a bath), '71 Honda CB500 (the Project), '10 Tiger (the tourer)

MikeZ

Per the manual
2.1 bar - 2.3 Kg/sq cm (5.07 lb/sq cm)
Rear pressure:
2.2 bar - 2.4 Kg/sq cm (5.29 lb/sq cm)
Owners manual in English is here:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CEAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediafire.com%2F%3F4m32t3wazfjkne2&ei=P0kQUJCjFcfk0QHPxICgDw&usg=AFQjCNGBVKVmh7oaee9_wt5OCZP9ajCXJQ
If that doesn't work I can download it and email it to you
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Autostrada Pilot

I understand the perspective of going by the manual, but don't different tire brands and styles operate differently from one another with pressures?

What about rider weight?
What about riding style (track vs straight road vs sport road)?


I'm just curious as to others' opinions on the matter.
2003 Monster 620 Dark - Sold

1999 Monster 900 City - Sold

After 7 years of Monsters, I'm sadly bikeless right now.

dlearl476

Quote from: Autostrada Pilot on July 25, 2012, 02:50:40 PM
I understand the perspective of going by the manual, but don't different tire brands and styles operate differently from one another with pressures?

What about rider weight?
What about riding style (track vs straight road vs sport road)?


I'm just curious as to others' opinions on the matter.

The method to my madness:  hot TP should be Cold TP + 10%. With each bike/set of new tires I mount, I start with OEM recommendations and work towards the 10%. With my current combo (Michelin Pilot Power 2ct) it eorks out to be 36f/42rr.

koko64

Tyres nowdays vary in construction enough to warrant checking with the tyre manufacturer. Stiffer sidewall construction on some tyres require lower pressures than you would expect. The opposite is true (eg, Pilot Pure). Also, bike weight, rider weight, etc do come into play.
Check with the tyre manufacturer.
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El-Twin

Quote from: dlearl476 on July 25, 2012, 03:11:07 PM
The method to my madness:  hot TP should be Cold TP + 10%. With each bike/set of new tires I mount, I start with OEM recommendations and work towards the 10%. With my current combo (Michelin Pilot Power 2ct) it eorks out to be 36f/42rr.

I have also heard: hot TP = cold TP + 10% Front, cold TP + 20% Rear. Because the rear tire works harder.
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scduc

I have not seen a tire in which the manufacturer did not have the inflation range on the tire.
08' S2R 1K   That was close  damn near lost a $400 hand cart.

Howie

Quote from: scduc on July 25, 2012, 04:55:14 PM
I have not seen a tire in which the manufacturer did not have the inflation range on the tire.

What is on the tire is MAXIMUM tire pressure for that tire.  For most tires, use what the bike manufacturer recommends.  Do look on the tire manufacturer's website and see if they do recommend different pressure for the tire on that bike, as koko said.  I run my Pilot Powers at a higher pressure than I ran on other brands.

You sure about your tire size?  You should have a 120/60 17 front, 160/60 17 rear.

ducpainter

Quote from: koko64 on July 25, 2012, 03:20:11 PM
Tyres nowdays vary in construction enough to warrant checking with the tyre manufacturer. Stiffer sidewall construction on some tyres require lower pressures than you would expect. The opposite is true (eg, Pilot Pure). Also, bike weight, rider weight, etc do come into play.
Check with the tyre manufacturer.
If you call the tire manufacturer they'll tell you to follow the vehicle manufacturers recommendations.

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Autostrada Pilot

So I dropped 2 lbs out of my front last night down to 32.

I figured I'd give JeffH's pressures (32F/34R) a try and see what I thought.....but then I didn't ride into work today. It will have to wait until tomorrow.
2003 Monster 620 Dark - Sold

1999 Monster 900 City - Sold

After 7 years of Monsters, I'm sadly bikeless right now.

IdZer0

I always wondered why Ducati suggests 32F/34R  (independent of tire manufacturer; Bridgestone on my M695 or Pirelli on the 848) while I hear it's much higher for the Japanese bikes.
Anyone an idea about that? Is it the difference in motor characteristics (I4 vs. twin)
2007 Monster 695, DP ECU, Low mount Alu Termignonis
replaced by 2011 848 EVO