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Real Recognize Real

September 30, 2012, 04:51:19 AM
I just purchased a NGR clutch hub drum and wanted to know which components from the OEM hub assembly should be transferred over to my '94 M900. I've searched several threads in the tutorial section and I believe Slide Panda's how-to states to transfer the O-ring so I'll transfer it unless otherwise stated. I'll also re-use the hub nut, but I'm not sure if I should use the locking washer. If someone could chime in I'd greatly appreciate it! Back to eating my morning [bacon]
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Real Recognize Real

#1
September 30, 2012, 08:54:27 AM
I think I found my answer in the following - my google-fu was weak this morning.

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=51386.0
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koko64

#2
September 30, 2012, 11:11:10 AM
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I wonder what it weighs compared to oem? Looks nice.
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#3
September 30, 2012, 12:13:38 PM
Quote from: koko64 on September 30, 2012, 11:11:10 AM
[thumbsup]
I wonder what it weighs compared to oem? Looks nice.

Next time I take it out, i'll weight it.

I re-assembled the clutch and fired up the bike. I put the bike in 1st gear, heard the click and let out the clutch lever but the gear didn't engage. It was like the bike was in neutral even. Not sure what to do at this point. Also, the NGR hub doesnt have a slot in one of the post like the OEM hub so how do I know how to align the pressure plate correctly? Any suggestions?
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ducpainter

#4
September 30, 2012, 12:16:35 PM
Sounds like you don't have it lined up right.

Just take it off and keep turning it until you feel the splines engage and the pressure plate slides all the way in. It can definitely be felt
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#5
September 30, 2012, 01:33:45 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on September 30, 2012, 12:16:35 PM
Sounds like you don't have it lined up right.

Just take it off and keep turning it until you feel the splines engage and the pressure plate slides all the way in. It can definitely be felt

Ok, i re-oriented the pressure plate so the splines engaged, but no luck yet. Just for reference, I did not install the spacer with the new hub. The hub nut and the locking washer are the only things securing the hub drum. Any other suggestions?
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#6
September 30, 2012, 01:39:43 PM
When you pull the clutch lever does the pressure plate move?
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#7
September 30, 2012, 01:55:04 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on September 30, 2012, 01:39:43 PM
When you pull the clutch lever does the pressure plate move?

Yes, the pressure plate moves when I pull the clutch lever.



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#8
September 30, 2012, 01:58:08 PM
Can you take a pic with the springs installed?

Also you mentioned leaving out a spacer. What does it look like, and where did it go?
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#9
September 30, 2012, 02:22:16 PM


released clutch lever:


pulled clutch lever:


parts that I didn't transfer:
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ducpainter

#10
September 30, 2012, 02:31:56 PM
I don't think the parts you left out are the problem, although the spacer may help locate the o-ring.

Are the plates under spring tension when the lever is released?
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#11
September 30, 2012, 02:48:36 PM
Yes I believe so. I secured the hub nut with a breaker bar - could this problem occur if I didn't torque it enough? No clutch problem before the install and i was careful to re-install the pressure plates in the correct order.
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#12
September 30, 2012, 02:55:57 PM
I don't think it has anything to do with the torque or lack of.

I think it has something to do with the way the pressure plate fits.

Do you have the stock pressure plate to try?

Out of curiosity...why did you leave out the pieces you did?
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#13
September 30, 2012, 03:37:13 PM Last Edit: September 30, 2012, 04:58:15 PM by Real Recognize Real
Quote from: ducpainter on September 30, 2012, 02:55:57 PM
I don't think it has anything to do with the torque or lack of.

I think it has something to do with the way the pressure plate fits.

Do you have the stock pressure plate to try?

Out of curiosity...why did you leave out the pieces you did?

Nope, I don't have stock pressure plate to fit it. I decided to leave the pieces out only because someone with the same hub drum did the same thing.
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ducpainter

#14
September 30, 2012, 04:25:38 PM
Quote from: Real Recognize Real on September 30, 2012, 03:37:13 PM
Nope, I don't have stock pressure plate to fit it. I decided to leave the pieces out only because someone with the flange spacer did the same thing.
I wish I had more for you.  :-\
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
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    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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