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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2012, 09:19:53 AM » |
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Think about this
After the 848 and hyper go away this year. there are no more full trellis frames
Streetfighter models are still full trellis. ...and the 20th anniversary edition is weak IMO. Paint, or annodizing, and the return of fugly mirrors. Anyone can do that with their current Monsters. I agree with a few other. It would have been a true anniversary edition if they slapped a tubular subframe on it. |
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« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2012, 09:39:11 AM » |
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And how is the sf sales. will they stick around long
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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2012, 09:56:07 AM » |
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How would that Gold frame look with the "Mach 1" monster art kit on it, or the "Darmah"? I know we expected more of a "sports Classic" type of re-do for a Monster anniversary edition, but I think Ducati is more interested in selling bikes & Accessories....LOL
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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2012, 04:29:07 PM » |
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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2012, 05:55:56 PM » |
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And how is the sf sales. will they stick around long
SF848 sales are doing pretty well and I think SF1098 sales picked up because of them. |
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« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2012, 02:31:30 AM » |
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i like the old-gold frame, red tank and throw back lettering. I have to look at each of those pictures with optimism, because they always look like hell with stock pipes to me. nearly all bikes. from every manufacturer.
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« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2012, 09:03:00 AM » |
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so has anyone confirmed the price on the anniversary edition? I'm wondering if the kool aid is strong.  |
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« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2012, 11:04:30 AM » |
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SF848 sales are doing pretty well and I think SF1098 sales picked up because of them.
I'm thinking the SF trellis will disappear for a Panigale based bike. |
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« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2012, 01:11:22 PM » |
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no trellis, weak.
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« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2012, 02:52:00 PM » |
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I'm thinking the SF trellis will disappear for a Panigale based bike.
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« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2012, 03:49:32 PM » |
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no trellis, weak.
+1 I certainly hope that Ducati doesn't abandon the aesthetic beauty of such a frame. I know everyone likes progress as do I but staying true to your roots is also a very compelling marketing strategy. I'll be stoned for this but HD has done it for 100 plus years and no matter what anyone says they continue to be successful. Audi, make it happen like you did with Lambo. |
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« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2012, 04:52:57 PM » |
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I'd bet the trellis is here to stay, long term, for all Ducatis except the superbikes. It works for them all just fine until you get to WSB/MotoGP level. It's cheap and easy to manufacture and engineer and modify for different models.
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« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2012, 05:18:18 PM » |
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Phil, it is all but over for the full trellis frame. The Hyper gets will be updated soon. It will be based on the current Multistrada's frame. The 848 will be phased out after that and will be a Panigale no-frame bike. The SF will then be done or will evolve into a Panigale based bike. Within 2-3 years, maybe less, there will be no full trellis frame bike in Ducati's line-up.
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« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2012, 08:38:46 PM » |
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I'm thinking the SF trellis will disappear for a Panigale based bike.
I'm very curious to know if the panigale frame is based on the failed moto GP design. A recent interview with Nicky Haden in which he says he will be using a new frame based on Valentinos aluminum version, which is nothing like the previous carbon fiber box design. Was the current box design of the panigale ok'd for production too early before the MotoGP version was race proven? What I'm getting at is that I hate to see the proven and beautiful trellis frames disappear for a technology that doesn't work. I imagine there are some very heated meetings happening in the Ducati corse dept. |
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« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2012, 11:02:49 PM » |
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here's the thing. the Panigale will HAVE to do well in WSBK next year or yes, the question will come up about the frame and Ducati will have a lot to answer for, specifically Preziosi who designed the damn thing.
BUT that's another thread.
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