New Monster subframe

[Barney]

After browsing the monster 20th anniversary thread here, and lookin at the special edition bikes, and reading yet another post about something about the new subframe, it dawned on me that there might be a (small) market for an aftermarket trellis subframe to make the old school guys happier with the looks of the new monster. 

and I thought that might be interesting.  anyone agree? disagree?  should I start a real poll? boobies?   

I might be interested in one, it could be cool i think... I'd also like to see an s*r style high shotgun exhaust for my 1100 evo...but that might be for another thread. 

[Lekak796]

Not a bad idea, I have no issues with the new subframe, it's not terribly ugly IMO but the fact is that an old school trellis subframe would look a lot better...

[freeclimbmtb]

Boobies.


Also, I would dig a trellis subframe (not that the $2000 per side carbon fibre subrames arent cool..)

[Barney]

I dont think the new subframe looks bad either...but I do think a trellis would look way cooler 

I'm actually not a fan of carbon anything for the most part - i'd probably end up painting that one, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't spend 2k on it it...

I'd hope a trellis subframe would cost substantially less too...anyone know a good welder in north NJ who might be interested in a winter project??

[PhilB]

I've long said that if I was doing any sort of custom based on a new Monster, I'd get a trellis subframe fabbed up.  Combine that with a trellis swingarm like is on the S2R or the MHR900ie, and you'd have a pretty spectacular looking machine.

PhilB

[SDRider]

Isn't increased stiffness the main reason Ducati changed the frame design of the current generation Monster?

Not sure why you would want to go throught he expense and decrease the stiffness by fabing up a new frame purely for aesthetic reasons.

I'd love to pick up the carbon subframe for my bike... but man that's a lot of coin.  Maybe someday when I'm rich and famous.   

[Triple J]

Isn't increased stiffness the main reason Ducati changed the frame design of the current generation Monster?

Doubtful. If a full trellis is stiff enough for a SBK, then it sure as hell is for a Monster.

Cost...cast parts are cheaper than ones that need to be welded.

[Barney]

cast may be cheaper than welded, but I was referring to that $2000 carbon subframe...

I cant see the trellis frame approaching anything near that much...

[Triple J]

cast may be cheaper than welded, but I was referring to that $2000 carbon subframe...

I cant see the trellis frame approaching anything near that much...

I agree. I wasn't referring to your comment, as I quoted SDRider. 

[Nero-92]

Isn't that the problem that most gp riders complane about that there isn't enough flex in there chassis's

[SDRider]

Doubtful. If a full trellis is stiff enough for a SBK, then it sure as hell is for a Monster.

Cost...cast parts are cheaper than ones that need to be welded.

Then why do I always hear that the biggest problem with the S4R is that the chassis isn't up to the capabilities of the motor?

[Triple J]

Then why do I always hear that the biggest problem with the S4R is that the chassis isn't up to the capabilities of the motor?

Because that frame isn't up to it. The SBK frames have key differences to the Monster frames. There isn't anything inherently wrong with a trellis frame.

[Triple J]

Isn't that the problem that most gp riders complane about that there isn't enough flex in there chassis's

No

[Speeddog]

Then why do I always hear that the biggest problem with the S4R is that the chassis isn't up to the capabilities of the motor?

That's more of a weight distribution issue, too tail heavy.

[thought]

Then why do I always hear that the biggest problem with the S4R is that the chassis isn't up to the capabilities of the motor?

And thats a much older style frame than the current sbk ones.  They shoved in a motor much more powerful than it was originally designed for.  The current sbk frames were designed for a much more powerful engine.