'12 M1100Evo Starting Issues

Started by Barney, October 15, 2012, 08:11:03 AM

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Barney

Yesterday, I went to fire up the my Monster 1100Evo for the first time in ~ a week.  no surprise to me, the thing goes through it start up sequence, and when I try to fire it up, it sputters, stalls, and gives me the 0005 rSW error, and the electronics reset.  the bike has done this every now and again for as long as i've owned it, and I always just chalked it up as an annoyance of it not being japanese. Today thought it was a little different - a little more sputtering before it turned over (it wasn't on a tender, but again, only sat for about a week).  Rode fine for ~ 60 miles or so, as it always does.  After sitting at a light though, it (i) stalled [bang] pulling away, and when I tried to restart, i got another error. and another, and another.  I sat on the side of the road for maybe 10 minutes turning it off, back on, etc.  trying to get it to turn over, and as soon as it did, we're off and running no problems.  My main question is what's going on when that happens?  I can usually tell when it's gonna do it when it's cold, as what I assume to be the actuator for the exhaust valve sounds funny, like maybe the valve is stuck (i could be totally off on that one...no idea) usually turning it off/back on and letting it go through the startup sequence again helps.  If i'm right and it's got something to do with that exhaust valve thing under my seat, would swapping in a duc.ee help? I know most people who've taken it to a dealer basically get "we can't replicate the issue"...

12 M1100EVO
09 KTM 200XC - sold. I cried.
70 Honda 450 Scrambler

shamoo

This is probably not it at all, but hey I figure I'd ask.

How many miles do you have on it?  A 2012 1100 I'm guessing would have pretty low miles.  When my 796 had <600 miles, sometimes it would shut off when cold.  After a minute or two of riding, it would be fine.  Dealer told me it was normal and it would happen less and less as the motor was broken in.  Now with 10K miles it almost never happens unless it's unually cold outside and I don't warm it up at all.

Barney

Just rolled over 6k yesterday actually...Like i said, most of the time i just deal with it, although it would be nice to be able to set the clock. I just stopped cause it resets every time it errors, and it's annoying when I lose my trip distance per fuel tank...yesterday it was just a real pain in the ass...

12 M1100EVO
09 KTM 200XC - sold. I cried.
70 Honda 450 Scrambler

Howie

The code is due to low voltage.  You need to check all connections and charging system output.  Better yet, 2012, get it to a dealer - warranty.

ungeheuer

Quote from: howie on October 15, 2012, 09:35:51 PM
Better yet, 2012, get it to a dealer - warranty.
+1

And when you do, regardless of if they can replicate the problem(s) or not,  ask them to report what error codes they found recorded by the ECU.

Then tell us. 

Then we can tell you what they mean  :).

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Barney

yeah you guys are probably right...Maybe once it gets cold enough here in NJ that I don't hold out hope for a day warm enough to ride i'll bring it in...it's not a problem 99% of the time - that one incident this weekend was the first time it really bugged me, its gonna need to go in for service soon anyway.

I'm gonna be plugging in a bazzaz z-fi this weekend so I'll check connections then

should this thing be on a tender if it's going to be sitting a week-10 days-ish?   this past week was probably the first time it's sat that long since I got it in March. 
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09 KTM 200XC - sold. I cried.
70 Honda 450 Scrambler

ungeheuer

Quote from: shift1100 on October 16, 2012, 06:56:38 AM
should this thing be on a tender if it's going to be sitting a week-10 days-ish?   this past week was probably the first time it's sat that long since I got it in March. 
My 09 M1100s started first push of the button after sitting in my garage untendered for 3 months.

Quote from: shift1100 on October 16, 2012, 06:56:38 AM
I'm gonna be plugging in a bazzaz z-fi this weekend so I'll check connections then
If it were mine, I'd get these issues attended to - under warranty - BEFORE you add your Bazzaz.  Do you really wanna give a dealer the potential to deflect the cause for any fault back onto you?
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thought

Quote from: ungeheuer on October 16, 2012, 03:10:58 PM
If it were mine, I'd get these issues attended to - under warranty - BEFORE you add your Bazzaz.  Do you really wanna give a dealer the potential to deflect the cause for any fault back onto you?


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Barney

more likely than not that's sound advice.

I took it out again yesterday and it pregnant doged at me again when I tried to start it up - I paid particular attention to the display and realized it's actually 0008, not 0005, on the display when it pops up.  I thought that's what it always said, but when I typed that in google, it only came back with people getting the 5 error and it seemed like similar symptoms so I assumed, as I always do, that I must be wrong..anyway, anyone have an idea what the 0008 rSW error code pertains to?  I also took a look at the voltage on the display, and I get 12.1 when it's shut down and 14.1-14.2 when it's fired up. 

Either way, I'm gonna give the dealer a buzz today and see if I can bring it in...I just don't like to like the idea of bringing it in without any idea what the issue is.  First duc, don't really have a dealer I trust yet...

any thoughts?  anyone know a trustworthy dealer in Northern NJ?
12 M1100EVO
09 KTM 200XC - sold. I cried.
70 Honda 450 Scrambler

thought

Quote from: shift1100 on October 17, 2012, 05:37:33 AM
any thoughts?  anyone know a trustworthy dealer in Northern NJ?

Rockwell cycles is the dealer i trust the most... second would be jack trebour and at the bottom of the list is ducati nyc.  I know that Ducnyc suppsosedly has turned over a new leaf but I've still heard some stories about them that make me a bit iffy concerning bring my bike to them.

In terms of working on the bike for more than just warranty issues however I would say ECS is the way to go.  They're not a dealer though so prob cant do anything about warranty work. 
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Barney

The bike came from Trebour, so I'm likely going to take it there, glad to hear someone think's it's a descent shop.  It just seems small...maybe that's a good thing.

my second closest option is Cross Country in Metuchen - that place is huge though...not sure how I feel about that either.

I met the guys in NYC a few weeks back at an event in hoboken - seemed nice enough, but i've heard enough stories about the place/it's a pain to get into the city so they're not an option.
12 M1100EVO
09 KTM 200XC - sold. I cried.
70 Honda 450 Scrambler

HotIce

My 2012 1100 EVO gets plugged into tender every night, but I can definitely tell it has a weak starter system, compared to other bikes.
I don't know if it is a sucky battery (did this since day one though), or just the 1100 EVO has someone wrong in that area.

Raux

I wonder if the 1100 would improve with the old improving the starter cables and battery trick

Barney

I was planning on picking up a tender anyway for the winter time, I may try that out first and see if it helps at all...

Anyone with any ideas on what that 0008 rSW error code pertains to? I'd like to have an idea what's going on before I contact the dealer to bring it in
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09 KTM 200XC - sold. I cried.
70 Honda 450 Scrambler

Howie

Traction control.  Just describe the symptoms completely as you can to the Trebour and leave the diagnosis up to them.  Their scan tool will pick up a lot more info.