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Jimmy6tring
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Re: Changing a ST2 into a custom.
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Friggin' sweet.
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The Don
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How the hell did you get that swing arm to fit that frame, well done sir. Does everything line up easily or was it a pain
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Quote from: Jimmy6tring on November 29, 2012, 07:09:54 PM
Friggin' sweet.
+2 on that!
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Re: Changing a ST2 into a custom.
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Quote from: The Don on November 29, 2012, 07:17:24 PM
How the hell did you get that swing arm to fit that frame, well done sir. Does everything line up easily or was it a pain
it's a 999 frame and swingarm, monster tank, seat and motor
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Thanks Raux. I thought it was a ST2 frame, that's what you get for coming in late.
I'm still impressed.
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Quote from: Raux on November 29, 2012, 09:47:09 PM
it's a 999 frame and swingarm, monster tank, seat and motor
Correction, Multi Strada motor. 999 swingarm will not fit on a Monster 1000DS motor.
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Quote from: Moto Motivo on November 30, 2012, 06:48:33 AM
Correction, Multi Strada motor. 999 swingarm will not fit on a Monster 1000DS motor.
true, at least not without mods.
but yes, i've seen the MTS1000 used for this type of mod before.
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Quote from: Moto Motivo on November 30, 2012, 06:48:33 AM
Correction, Multi Strada motor. 999 swingarm will not fit on a Monster 1000DS motor.
Ahem...., not true.
Que OneSpeedPaul......
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Re: ST2 Cafe Racer/Fighter & 999 Frame Monster.
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Paul's was a 900SS motor, (same width as a Monster) but he narrowed it.
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Moto Motivo
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Re: Changing a ST2 into a custom.
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Quote from: Pedro-bot on November 30, 2012, 06:49:12 PM
Ahem...., not true.
Que OneSpeedPaul......
A stock 999 Swing arm will NOT fit a stock M1000DS motor without case or swing arm modifications (or both) .
If my memory recalls correctly, OneSpeedPaul fitted a 900S air cooled motor in a 916 frame with a single sided swing arm.
I am using a 999 frame, 999 double sided swing arm and MTS1000DS motor, totally different setup.
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Re: ST2 Cafe Racer/Fighter & 999 Frame Monster.
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Wow, watching with interest...
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Moto Motivo
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Re: ST2 Cafe Racer/Fighter & 999 Frame Monster.
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The (transformer) bike in 2 different configurations.
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Quote from: Moto Motivo on December 01, 2012, 07:20:44 AM
If my memory recalls correctly, OneSpeedPaul fitted a 900S air cooled motor in a 916 frame with a single sided swing arm.
On a shoe string budget.
I was there.
Quote from: Moto Motivo on December 01, 2012, 07:20:44 AM
A stock 999 Swing arm will NOT fit a stock M1000DS motor without case or swing arm modifications (or both) .
Paul's bike used a non-narrow engine case (900ss motor) and fitted it to a sbk frame and swing arm (916). This was done by shimming the engine case.
Really my point was that you can in fact make a sbk swing arm work with a non-narrow engine case (Monster or SS motor).
Although the example of Paul's bike is not identical, conceptually it is.
Apples + apples = more apples
Quote from: Moto Motivo on December 01, 2012, 08:34:19 AM
The (transformer) bike in 2 different configurations.
I like the non-monster look better.
But both look great.
Any reason you didn't go with the box style swing arm from the 999?
Thanks for sharing your work.
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Re: ST2 Cafe Racer/Fighter & 999 Frame Monster.
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Quote
Really my point was that you can in fact make a sbk swing arm work with a non-narrow engine case (Monster or SS motor).
Although the example of Paul's bike is not identical, conceptually it is.
In Paul's own words: "
after figuring out the stud spacing on my own many moons ago, i ended up getting a nice used 900SS motor and machined the cases at the swingarm pivot to match the SBK cases, and *most* everything else fell into place."
http://www.ducati.ms/forums/57-supersport/16513-motor-swap-time-2.html
I also prefer the looks of the 999 tank and Radical seat, but like the more relaxed riding position of the Monster. Doing a bike this way is providing me with 2 bikes in one and having a Monster with the adjustability of all the 999 configurations. Hell, it is also fun doing something like this.
The swing arm was "free"
Left over from a previous project.
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Re: ST2 Cafe Racer/Fighter & 999 Frame Monster.
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Quote from: Moto Motivo on December 01, 2012, 11:03:32 AM
In Paul's own words: "
after figuring out the stud spacing on my own many moons ago, i ended up getting a nice used 900SS motor and machined the cases at the swingarm pivot to match the SBK cases, and *most* everything else fell into place."
http://www.ducati.ms/forums/57-supersport/16513-motor-swap-time-2.html
I also prefer the looks of the 999 tank and Radical seat, but like the more relaxed riding position of the Monster. Doing a bike this way is providing me with 2 bikes in one and having a Monster with the adjustability of all the 999 configurations. Hell, it is also fun doing something like this.
The swing arm was "free"
Left over from a previous project.
So what you're saying is a monster engine won't work with a sbk swingarm.
Ha!!
I stand corrected.
Paul was a good buddy and I forgot he switched cases.
The devil is in fact in the details.
I had an '04 749s with the cast style swingarm such as yours, always preferred the look of the forged box style.
Was just curious.
Free is good.
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