MotoGP for Dummies

[kopfjäger]

Viewed it in a 'test' package, but this will be my first season using it for races. I figured its the cost of a meal and a few drinks. 

Well worth it, turning off the commentary is awesome. Choosing the footage I want to view is excellent. 

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Did you just quote yourself to make a comment supporting yourself?  That was some inception shit. 

In any case, I'm enjoying the commentators for now but if they get annoying I may pony up the meal-and-a-few-drinks to go with the fancy option.  As long as they keep producing races like that last one, Dorna can have all my money.

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Ok, new question time:

I get the limit on engines and how it varies from factory to satellite teams.  But what does the limit actually mean?  If Jorge has a nasty high side in qualifying and the engine is seriously busted, does that count?  If not, what does count and why would a race team crack open a new engine if the current one is still working, i.e. what kind of wear or problems occur?  Finally, what type of tuning changes CAN the team make once it cracks an engine?

[ducpainter]

Ok, new question time:

I get the limit on engines and how it varies from factory to satellite teams.  But what does the limit actually mean?  If Jorge has a nasty high side in qualifying and the engine is seriously busted, does that count?  If not, what does count and why would a race team crack open a new engine if the current one is still working, i.e. what kind of wear or problems occur?  Finally, what type of tuning changes CAN the team make once it cracks an engine?

If George highsides and lunches a motor...too bad. It comes out of the allotment.

The two factory teams that are under the low engine limit of 5 per season have all the variables worked out as far as to how many miles the motor needs to run, and will bring out the next engine when one in service reaches EOL. They really can't afford a failure during a race.

The engines are sealed. Once sealed they can't be opened for any reason and then returned to service. They are returned to the race dept at the factory and examined. The sealing does not include gear boxes which are open to allow for gearing changes.

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If George highsides and lunches a motor...too bad. It comes out of the allotment.

The two factory teams that are under the low engine limit of 5 per season have all the variables worked out as far as to how many miles the motor needs to run, and will bring out the next engine when one in service reaches EOL. They really can't afford a failure during a race.

The engines are sealed. Once sealed they can't be opened for any reason and then returned to service. They are returned to the race dept at the factory and examined. The sealing does not include gear boxes which are open to allow for gearing changes.

Thanks.  That quenches 50% of what I was wondering.  I guess what I'm getting at is: what changes can they make and what can't they make once an engine has been unsealed?  I mean, they can change the oil, right?  And as you mentioned, gearing.  But I'm guessing they can't bore out the cylinders.  But can they replace a piston? Or even a piston ring?  

Forgive me if the question is trivial, but I'm trying to reconcile the idea that you can't alter an engine buuuttttt that constant testing and racing will require some maintenance as well as invite subtle tweaks for performance improvement.

[ducpainter]

Thanks.  That quenches 50% of what I was wondering.  I guess what I'm getting at is: what changes can they make and what can't they make once an engine has been unsealed?  I mean, they can change the oil, right?  And as you mentioned, gearing.  But I'm guessing they can't bore out the cylinders.  But can they replace a piston? Or even a piston ring?  

Forgive me if the question is trivial, but I'm trying to reconcile the idea that you can't alter an engine buuuttttt that constant testing and racing will require some maintenance as well as invite subtle tweaks for performance improvement.

They can't do anything...maybe oil changes...but once the seals are broken that engine can't be returned to service.

The factories have to submit all their engines for sealing prior to the start of the Qatar GP meet. They can't make any development changes during the season.

The Open bikes, and factories with concessions don't have to submit an engine until they want to use it, so they can make constant changes on any remaining engines.

That's the reason Ducati threatened to go to the open class. They knew they'd need the extra testing and engine development required to get competitive.

Dorna countered with the concessions to keep them as a 'Factory' entry.

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They can't do anything...maybe oil changes...but once the seals are broken that engine can't be returned to service.

Got it.   

[lazylightnin717]

Smartest move for Ducati ever

[HotIce]

They can't do anything...maybe oil changes...but once the seals are broken that engine can't be returned to service.

The factories have to submit all their engines for sealing prior to the start of the Qatar GP meet. They can't make any development changes during the season.

The Open bikes, and factories with concessions don't have to submit an engine until they want to use it, so they can make constant changes on any remaining engines.

That's the reason Ducati threatened to go to the open class. They knew they'd need the extra testing and engine development required to get competitive.

Dorna countered with the concessions to keep them as a 'Factory' entry.

They can do oil, cooling and IIRC even clutch plates/hubs, as seals do not cover those inlets.

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It's worth it.

Go to the motogp.com website and poke around to see what's available. You won't be able to watch the videos, but I'm pretty sure everything else is visible.

There really is quite a bit of content.

I see there's an iPad app for MotoGP --- costs $25.00 (iOS App Store)

1) Can live races be watched with the app (I don't think so)?

2) Does the MotoGP subscription include this app?

Thank you.

[HotIce]

1) No, unlikely. The VideoPass is $100...$150, so I don;t think $25 are going to make it   Could be you get a month free (a month is about $25).
2) You do not need an app to watch MotoGP streaming. But yes, MotoGP has one.

[ducpainter]

I see there's an iPad app for MotoGP --- costs $25.00 (iOS App Store)

1) Can live races be watched with the app (I don't think so)?

2) Does the MotoGP subscription include this app?

Thank you.

I don't know about watching live races.

I don't use an ipad to watch.

I use my laptop hooked up to the big screen.

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2) Does the MotoGP subscription include this app?

My understanding in "no".  I tried to download after I subscribed to motoGP and there was no way to do it without paying (i.e. no, "motogp users sign in here" or whatever).

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Thank you, all.

I travel a lot for biz and wanted to be able to watch on the pad when not booked in a hotel (e.g., stream at a public library, B&N, Starbucks, etc.).  When in a hotel, I can always use adapter to run laptop video to the hotel room's TV.

If MotoGP.com subscription is browser-based, then pad would work without any app.

Oh, well, maybe I'll have to book some work in NH so I can plop down in front of the big screen with a cold one    

[ducpainter]

Thank you, all.

I travel a lot for biz and wanted to be able to watch on the pad when not booked in a hotel (e.g., stream at a public library, B&N, Starbucks, etc.).  When in a hotel, I can always use adapter to run laptop video to the hotel room's TV.

If MotoGP.com subscription is browser-based, then pad would work without any app.

Oh, well, maybe I'll have to book some work in NH so I can plop down in front of the big screen with a cold one    

Or perhaps a tasty cocktail.

I believe the motogp subscription will work fine with Safari.

It doesn't work very well with the browser built in to the tv, but that's a problem with the tv not the service.