Boots law in Vic from July 1

[koko64]

Secret law !
Conspiracy!
The subjugation of the populace started with footwear laws!

[madalf71]

 From Koko

It'll be up to the cops use common sense and discretion and recognize a riders attempt to protect themselves.

You've got to be kidding.

[koko64]

In the end you will be at their mercy. Some will be reasonable and some...
I hope the law is well draughted and clear so we know where we stand. I would like to read it though!
A respectful attitude is no guarantee, but it helps your odds. l I've got no sympathy for thong nongs.
 I've had mixed experiences with cops, so I'm not going to generalize.

[Sundog]

Haven't seen or heard a word about it (other than here - maybe Sundog made it up  ).

There is a link to a news article at the start of this thread. I couldn't make this sh*t up.

[koko64]

Im sure it is the thin edge of the wedge.
No consultation most likely.
We need to be in a powerful lobby group like the AMA in the States.

[ducmeister]

Here in the sunshine state the thong nongs seem to be more than just a small minority.  The number I see wearing a jacket and shorts just astounds me.

In Vic I was always surprised that the  who should be demonstrating the right behaviors, wore short sleeve cotton shirts.  Not sure if that's still the case now.

[ungeheuer]

.....I hope the law is well draughted and clear so we know where we stand.....

  Good one.

[koko64]

  Good one.

Reckon I'll need a lawyer as pillion?

[GK]

I'm conflicted.  I don't like being told what to do either, but then again I'm clever enough to wear appropriate safety gear without legislation  .
I understand this view too..... But in fact on our roads you do NOT ride at your own risk.  You ride at MY (and every other taxpayer's) risk.  When you turn up at an emergency ward it's - more often than not - the State $$$ which picks up the bill for reattaching your missing toes.... it's the State which finances your rehabilitation.... and to some extent I feel this muddies the waters of "do whatever you like".  I want my government to not waste the money they extract from me....  so if it costs less to repair your accident damage by insisting you take a little responsibility for your own personal protection.... then on balance... I guess I'm fine with that.

So if you don't like the government wasting your hard earned, you must hate the millions spent to treat cancer caused by smoking! LOL!

It's boots now, but it will probably move to gloves, kevlar jeans as a minimum, back protectors. From there, the only place to go is airbag jackets and hans racing devices! LOL!

Like I've said, I don't mind wearing safety gear. In fact, I wear more now than I ever have in my life, including MX style knee and shin protection under my kevlar jeans.

I suppose that I get concerned everytime those in power legislate to 'protect' us, even if it's from our own stupidity, because then, anything can be justified in the name of safety.

Case in point - speed cameras save lives!

If it can easily be justified, then the average Joe has no real say, or is forced by way of PC BS to be quiet, even if they do object. There is way too much group think and group speak in our nation now.

I agree with Koko 64, we need a strong riders association like they do in the States.

GK

[Sabre Brian]

There is also too much Big Brother babysitting us as well.  I am a plumber.  You should see the idiotic things I have to do in the name of "protecting people" from apparently themselves.

Firstly, you can't have water over 50 degrees C, or you could burn yourself, or your kids.
You can't have water coming out at more than 9 litres per minute, or you will waste water.
We have to put a coating over exposed pipes on your hot water unit, or you will bump it and burn your arm.
You can't even call a hot water system a hot water system, or a hot water unit.  It is a "water heater"

This is just another unnecessary way to control us.  I am a big boy.  I should be able to ride my bike wearing whatever I like.  To go out and shorts and thongs, I would be a moron, but surely that is my decision to make.  Why is it that we are not capable or making our own moronic decisions, yet the people who run this country are allowed to do just that.

My grandfather lived to be 92, on a farm, eating things like lard, and butter, and fat, and pork and god knows which other thing that is apparently going to kill us all now.  He had proper hot water and never scalded himself, and had none of the safety devices that are around today.  HOW IN THE HELL DID HE SURVIVE??

[suzyj]

Didn't a couple of people in Qld die recently from legionnaires? That had been growing in a hot water system where the water wasn't hot enough?

[Sabre Brian]

Yep, in a hospital, but that was from being a tight arse and turning down the hot water units.

You are supposed to have your hot water set to 60 degrees + because legionella can't survive at that temperature, and
then have a tempering valve or a thermostatic mixing valve to reduce the temp back under 50.  Legionella also can't survive
in the pipe.  It needs a storage tank to live, so if you raise it to 65, then lower it in the pipe back to 50, Legionella will never get into your home.  Another thing, you should never EVER drink water out of your hot water tap if you have a water tank type water heater because of the magnesium and other impurities that will be in the tank, especially if the tank is old.

edit:  Having said that, it probably wont kill ya.