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Mhanis
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Re: 1100 engine with stacks and pod filters
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Reply #15 on:
June 28, 2013, 04:11:31 AM »
Nick, obviously with the CAD being available we can tweak it as you need to to accommodate the abs module.
In theory it should be pretty easy.
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Re: 1100 engine with stacks and pod filters
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June 28, 2013, 08:34:07 AM »
After looking at the monster parts PDF I don't think this will even be an issue. The ABS servo is not very large at all, and worst case scenario, longer brake lines will be needed to tuck it away just where I need it.
Reference part 6
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Re: 1100 engine with stacks and pod filters
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June 28, 2013, 09:04:20 AM »
^ the ABS module looks smaller in the schematic than it actually is...its approx a 6" cube. I wouldn't call that small.
ABS bikes have smaller gas tanks and airbox due to the heft of the ABS hardware. Relocating options will be limited to how much slack you have in the pigtail harness (you don't want to cut, splice and extend this), then of course you would need to reroute and/or extend the hard brake lines. Sounds fun eh? Your best bet IMO is leave it where it is and use an elbow on the air filter to move it away from the ABS module. The route that I contemplated was cutting up the airbox; just leaving the structural portion that supports the ECU/Battery/ABS. This wouldn't look as clean as a custom bracket but it would be much easier - then the only challenge left is fitting the air filters.
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June 28, 2013, 03:27:44 PM »
Another issue I should point out is we found the stock negative ground lead to the battery was too short when all was said and done...
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Re: 1100 engine with stacks and pod filters
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June 28, 2013, 07:24:59 PM »
Quote from: 2-Skinny on June 28, 2013, 03:27:44 PM
Another issue I should point out is we found the stock negative ground lead to the battery was too short when all was said and done...
Wow. That'd be a real show stopper, right there.
Seriously though, I'm with Ung, looks like there's gobs of room for the abs kit.
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Re: 1100 engine with stacks and pod filters
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June 28, 2013, 07:36:02 PM »
Quote from: suzyj on June 28, 2013, 07:24:59 PM
Wow. That'd be a real show stopper, right there.
Seriously though, I'm with Ung, looks like there's gobs of room for the abs kit.
Meh, only just a small hiccup.
It actually looks to sit pretty high up and to the right. I don't think there will be an issue.
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Re: 1100 engine with stacks and pod filters
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June 29, 2013, 07:00:52 AM »
Granted, I dont have ABS but someone mentioned going with v stacks..
I have removed my airbox and am using turned aluminum v stacks from Velocity of Sound in Australia.
They are covered with a mesh screen then two layers of gauze both taken from a K&N filter. Securing all that down is a v stack nylon "bootie" from Outerwears (which is lightly oiled). Going with v stacks may open up some room. If at all interested, my filtration is about .004" which is a bit less than baking flour on the micron scale.
That aside, why not just lengthen the wires and move the abs module? Or can it be removed altogether?
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Re: 1100 engine with stacks and pod filters
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July 07, 2013, 04:49:25 PM »
I like the idea of pod filter as well. Issues to overcome will these velocity stacks and filters actually increase performance ? Ducati as well as all manufactures go to great lengths to tune the stock airbox for performance, or to cancel out noise or standing wave. Look at WSBK & AMA Superbikes, airbox is still there, I'm sure it's been tweaked for additional performance. 2nd thought would be , Why not remove the ABS actuator and associated electronic module ? Have new brake lines made for the bike, this is fairly straightforward. Non-ABS 1100EVO ? Why not ?
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Quote from: racingj on July 07, 2013, 04:49:25 PM
2nd thought would be , Why not remove the ABS actuator and associated electronic module ? Have new brake lines made for the bike, this is fairly straightforward. Non-ABS 1100EVO ? Why not ?
This is something I have actually been tossing around as I absolutely despise the shitty feel at the lever the abs module causes. But at the same time I've been caught in downpours before and I just switch it on and feel a little more comfortable. I'll probably swap out for some aprilia 4 pad calipers to compensate.
As far as the pods I'm mainly doing it to have something a little different than the rest. Plus the weight savings of elongating the airbox and equipment.
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Re: 1100 engine with stacks and pod filters
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July 07, 2013, 06:22:42 PM »
Quote from: ungeheuer on June 27, 2013, 04:06:13 PM
^^ This.
My solution was PCV
with Autotune
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Here's a couple of pics of my set up.... I woulda thought there'd be room to mount ABS gizmometry to the RHS of pods??
Nice, clean work Ung!
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Re: 1100 engine with stacks and pod filters
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Quote from: Buck Naked on July 07, 2013, 06:22:42 PM
Nice, clean work Ung!
Those pics are not my actual bike BN, but my WASP setup looks exactly like that (honest
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Re: 1100 engine with stacks and pod filters
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Quote from: racingj on July 07, 2013, 04:49:25 PM
Ducati as well as all manufactures go to great lengths to tune the stock airbox for performance, or to cancel out noise or standing wave.
In my generation of monster, they use the same airbox on every bike from a 400 through to a 1000. I don't imagine the tuning is that delicate.
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