Advice/Opinions (Build a Monster from eBay bits)

[Raux]

ok. here goes

999 frame
1100 hypermotard motor
848 swingarm

name the issues?

[Travman]

I would build something in the vein of the early Radical Ducati bikes. You know something with a SBK frame, massive SBK triples and forks, radial brakes, 2V engine, S2R style swingarm with the Radical Ducati off-the-shelf tank and seat section.

[Ahks]

to clarify the bolded bit, the 748, 916 and 996 have the same swingarm mount arrangement.  the 996 is different to the st4s and s4r in the swingarm mounting, but has the same wider stud spacing.  st4s and s4r are the same cases.

so you need to choose your swingarm first probably, then go from there.

What about 749/999 cases? I've seen a few 999's over on the .ms with 1098 swing arms. By all accounts, it messes with the geometry some, but I think some forethought and planning could eliminate or mitigate that. I'm seeing a bunch of 749's crop up on CL around here for dirt cheap (comparatively).

[Moto Motivo]

I just completed this bike for myself from several Ducati left over parts from previous builds.  The whole idea was to use what I had, the reason why it has a stock 999 swing arm and rear wheel.
It was a great project to do, but will have to say that starting with a complete donor is much easier, especially when needing smaller parts, nuts and bolts, etc.
Short list of main components:
999 frame (salvage title)
916 lower triple
Monster 1100 Clutch and brake masters
Custom upper triple
S4R Handle bars
999 swing arm
999 shock
999 wheels
848 forks and calipers
1000DS Multi Strada motor
S2R 1000 Monster wiring loom
Monster tank
Monster seat
Custom seat sub frame
Sport Classic instruments
Custom equal length header pipes

[Ahks]

Thats awesome.

What were the hurdles regarding mounting the motor to that frame and swingarm to the 1000ds motor?

[Moto Motivo]

Thats awesome.

What were the hurdles regarding mounting the motor to that frame and swingarm to the 1000ds motor?

The 749/999 swing arm fits the Multi Strada 1000DS motor. No mods to motor or swing arm.

To fit the MS 1000DS motor to the frame you have to re position the front cross bar in the frame to make space for the 1000DS throttle bodies.  You will also need custom swing arm pivot/bolt "pucks" with holes in the center.

 

[Ahks]

If 1000DS cases slot in a 74/999 swing arm then a 1098 should fit with little work as well. But as far as dsss's go that 999 arm is fairly attractive. I think if I ended up fightering a 74/999 I wouldn't be mad 

[brad black]

johann may correct me here, but afaik the mts1000 and 1100 use different cases to the ss and monster, which is why the 999 swingarm works with them.  999 swingarm won't work with ss or monster or st cases.

ss, monster, st, 851/888 cases are all the same swingarm mount wise (bearing in case) and work with anything from 89 onwards pretty much.  the 916 style case, without bearings and a lower hole, work with all post 916 sbk models and the mts and hm 1000/1100.

which is why the 1098 arms fit 999, etc.  the suspension style is also the same 916 sbk onwards, with the pushrod and shock on the same lower pivot and the pushrod going forward to the rocker.  but, as you say, geometry is different.

the st series and st based monster are the same.  pre 2002 2v monsters are like the 851/888, with the hoop to rocker to shock in a square shape (sort of).

cool use of bits johann.
this is why you need to decide swingarm first pretty much, then match other stuff to it.

[Raux]

there are some issues with the 2v narrow cases as I think they have a different mount location in the oval for the swingarm.

several people have come up with different solutions and it depends on the frame you are using.

[Greg]

You forgot to mention the ultra-light chain you installed 

I just completed this bike for myself from several Ducati left over parts from previous builds.  The whole idea was to use what I had, the reason why it has a stock 999 swing arm and rear wheel.
It was a great project to do, but will have to say that starting with a complete donor is much easier, especially when needing smaller parts, nuts and bolts, etc.

[Ahks]

You forgot to mention the ultra-light chain you installed 

Ultra LTW prototype... carbon nanotubes

[Moto Motivo]

johann may correct me here, but afaik the mts1000 and 1100 use different cases to the ss and monster, which is why the 999 swingarm works with them.  999 swingarm won't work with ss or monster or st cases.

You are correct Brad.  The option of using a Multi/Hyper SSS is also there, but then the shock rocker/dog bone mounting on the 749/999 frame needs to be moved to the RHS on the frame.  Using the 749/999 swing arm is by far the easiest and cheapest.  I would have liked to use the later 999 (boxed) swing arm, but had the older version in stock.  I might change it later if I can find one at a good price.

I had the bike on the scale and dry weight was 367 lb.  This bike has a second set of body work that transform the bike into a Cafe Racer using a modified 999 tank and one of my Cafe Racer seats.  I will post pictures later.

You forgot to mention the ultra-light chain you installed 

Well spotted, I was waiting for the new chain to come in when I took the picture.

[Rudemouthsky]

MM that aluminum fender looks awesome with your build! Glad you liked it.

[HotIce]

Stunning build!