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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2013, 07:42:57 PM » |
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I seriously wonder with the pricing and size if they aren't think of a 750 version
1199 17,995
899 14,995
750 12,995
then race the 750 in the WSS
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2013, 07:50:22 PM » |
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Still no SSS sportbike with ABS for under $11tyb  . |
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2013, 07:58:54 PM » |
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the more I think about this, the more I think the market/planner/developers forget Ducati history.
the smaller SBKs were always copies of the larger bikes with a different characteristic and different market
now they think the smaller SBK buyers are just beginner waiting to step up to the larger bike.
the 748 always held it's own, and had it's on S and R versions. which are very very nice bikes.
I always thought the 848 deserved an SL version at least for the Final edition, with all the S components and CF goodies.
this whole idea that you HAVE to step up to the bigger bikes to get the SSS or better suspension is dumb IMO. you're narrowing your market not expanding it.
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2013, 08:11:24 PM » |
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just a slow 1198. CUT THE FAT!
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2013, 08:32:17 PM » |
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We are almost back to the start with the 916, does anyone know the HP, torque and of a 916 for comparison, I know the weight is 203Kg but im not sure if that is wet.
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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2013, 03:18:10 AM » |
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well it started with the 851/888 so we are full circle already notice they aren't using the term 'frameless' anymore. maybe to differentiate from that failed GP bike  |
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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2013, 05:00:10 AM » |
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We are almost back to the start with the 916, does anyone know the HP, torque and of a 916 for comparison, I know the weight is 203Kg but im not sure if that is wet.
A 916 makes ~100-105hp @ the wheel so not much comparison between it and an 899. well it started with the 851/888 so we are full circle already notice they aren't using the term 'frameless' anymore. maybe to differentiate from that failed GP bike Could be... |
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2013, 05:14:37 AM » |
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150 @ the crank =  at the wheel |
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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2013, 05:19:59 AM » |
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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2013, 05:42:56 AM » |
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well it started with the 851/888 so we are full circle already
Yea but iirc the inline fours of that time period were in the 900cc range as well. Same with the 916. Then the inline fours bumped up to 1000cc and ducati followed suit with the 996 and 998 engines. |
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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2013, 05:43:20 AM » |
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851: 93 RWP 430/460 lbs
888: 95.4 RWP 210/217 kg
916: 102 RWP 198/204 kg
748: 90 RWP 202/208 kp
749: 105 RWP 199/ kg
848 evo: 117 RWP 168/ kg
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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2013, 06:03:19 AM » |
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They already changed the TB limit.
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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2013, 06:18:26 AM » |
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A 916 makes ~100-105hp @ the wheel so not much comparison between it and an 899.
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