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« Reply #105 on: October 05, 2013, 12:53:54 AM »

Ferrari has been doing this for along time.  It is valid and worthwhile marketing technique.

yup....was it the Enzo that they came out with where you had to be an owner of the 2 previous ultimate bad boy Ferraris before you'de get a dealer to even look at you for thinking to put you on the list
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« Reply #106 on: October 05, 2013, 12:56:51 AM »

And have proper maintenance history to boot.
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« Reply #107 on: October 05, 2013, 02:35:51 AM »

Ferrari has been doing this for along time.  It is valid and worthwhile marketing technique. elitist bollocks.
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« Reply #108 on: October 05, 2013, 04:59:05 AM »

Don't know about you but having the cash that allows one to be a preferred client requires by default, being elitist.  Hence an elitist marketing technique for an elitist car is quite effective.

I still think they should be under 50k but what do I know lol.
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« Reply #109 on: October 05, 2013, 11:34:43 AM »

Ferrari has been doing this for along time.

I heard that in the past they have also cancelled some customer deliveries when they have learned the car had been advertised for sale before delivery ... hence my comment above.

I admire that ... but it could be complete bollocks   Grin
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« Reply #110 on: October 05, 2013, 03:52:03 PM »

I read a statement on another forum from Ducati's CEO, and I quote, "We are already working on the new Desmosedici for 2014".
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« Reply #111 on: October 05, 2013, 05:49:33 PM »

I read a statement on another forum from Ducati's CEO, and I quote, "We are already working on the new Desmosedici for 2014".

Me thinks that is motogp related.

They better be working on it...
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« Reply #112 on: October 05, 2013, 11:03:55 PM »

Don't know about you but having the cash that allows one to be a preferred client requires by default, being elitist.  Hence an elitist marketing technique for an elitist car is quite effective.
You make a fair point  waytogo
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« Reply #113 on: October 06, 2013, 02:02:34 AM »

Panigale R superleggera
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« Reply #114 on: October 06, 2013, 03:36:44 AM »

Panigale R superleggera

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http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=65165.msg1207185#msg1207185

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« Reply #115 on: October 07, 2013, 10:32:48 AM »

Regarding the "why": Ducati is owned by VW.  VW also owns Bugatti.  They built the Veyron and sold the first couple hundred cars at a *loss*.  So why build it?  Because they can.  It was an investment in the science and engineering know-how to build a 1000-hp car with AWD that could be driven reliably every day.  Only companies with deep pockets can afford this approach to R&D, but it's far from pointless.

While the engineering marvel itself might sell at a loss, the technology and know-how developed on that program is valuable for future models of lesser cars... cars with a bigger profit margin.  Also, think about it like this: it's an R&D program that you're getting customers to buy the "prototypes" after you've gotten the dat ayou want out of them.  So, regardless of whether the limited-run vehicles are sold at profit or loss, it's a better deal than just funding the R&D internally and not selling the showcase product.

There is also the marketing side... you offset some of the R&D cost, AND create a stronger high-end brand image by producing a lustworthy limited-run vehicle.

As far as whether it's elitism, snobbery, or whatever... that's capitalism.  Part of what drives capitalism is the desire to obtain these high-end unobtainable items.  I see this vehicle, and I want one... so I need the means... so I need to work harder and/or smarter, to move my way up the ranks, to obtain the means.  Then, someday in the future once the means have been obtained, maybe I'll be on Ducati's "list" for whatever uber-limited snob-mobile they release at that time (or I can afford to buy one shortly after a selected owner gets bored with theirs).

Having test ridden a Panigale S this weekend, I can see the attraction.  Guess I should get off the board and back to work so I can get that promotion and payraise...  Wink
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« Reply #116 on: October 07, 2013, 03:49:41 PM »

 waytogo
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waytogo  my vote!!!!!!
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« Reply #117 on: October 08, 2013, 05:21:35 AM »

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/ducati-monster-1200-leak/
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« Reply #118 on: October 11, 2013, 05:59:47 AM »

Photos of the Superleggera

http://www.ilducatista.com/2013/10/ducati-1199-panigale-r-superleggera.html
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« Reply #119 on: October 11, 2013, 06:38:39 AM »

So a carbon fiber rear subframe & a mag airbox/front chasis.  40 lbs still sounds like alot of weight to loose if that is the true difference.  Very cool bike, but not as trick as the D16.
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