2013 MotoGP Round 14 - Aragon (Spoilers!!!)

[Raux]

pedrosa always has the pace at the beginning but can't keep it to beat Jorge, but by then he's held up MM so long the race is lost.

MM just needs to practice his starts so he can leave Pedronumnutscan'thandlethepowersa at the starting line

[Triple J]

Good race, especially the battle for 3rd. 

Too bad for Pedrobot. That guy has some crappy luck. I think he had the pace to get JLo.

Impressive race by MM as well, although eventually he's going to run into the back of someone. He's come within millimeters in several races now.

[zooom]

if you read the posts above, you'll see that marquez ripped pedrosa's rear wheel speed sensor off while attempting his pass.

point of correction....while trying to avoid fudgepacking Pedrosagoflyinglikeaskyshotwithnotractioncontrol because he was too hot going into the turn and left not enough of a safety margin for error....

[gm2]

maybe if pedro could go faster than marc he wouldn't have had this little issue.

Impressive race by MM as well, although eventually he's going to run into the back of someone. He's come within millimeters in several races now.

ever watch nori haga race?  that guy lived 2 millimeters from the guy in front of him, lap after lap after lap.  well, up until 2009 anyway.

[zooom]

ever watch nori haga race?  that guy lived 2 millimeters from the guy in front of him, lap after lap after lap.  well, up until 2009 anyway.

Nori didn't seem as much on the edge of out of control doing it though....the only time I can recall that it bit him I think was when he was on the Santander Yamaha R1 in '08? duking it out with Kagayama on the Gixxer and Kagayama slid the rear and both crashed IIRC

[duccarlos]

And of course running into birds.

[gm2]

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/marquez-and-pedrosa-clash/

[duccarlos]

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/marquez-and-pedrosa-clash/

Take away 2 points, start him from the back and light the fuse. it will be the most interesting race in years. The announcers will spend more time keeping track of whom he passes than on Lorenzo gaping the field at the front.

[The Architect]

Take away 2 points, start him from the back and light the fuse. it will be the most interesting race in years. The announcers will spend more time keeping track of whom he passes than on Lorenzo gaping the field at the front.

Exactly!

Just like when he forgot to put the bike in gear at the start of one of the Moto2 races. 

[Triple J]

I don't see a penalty being warranted from this instance. This is racing...the point is to win. No one wins without riding on the edge. It would be a non-issue if HRC had protected that cable, or programmed their ecu differently.

[Spidey]

The only reason to penalize in this situation is b/c its part of a pattern of riding by Marquez.  He has been really lucky this year not to crash and not to cause a serious incident.  Marquez has a history, both in Moto2 and in MotoGP, albeit one that is getting better and better.  That said, the points system is supposed to be how to deal with someone who has enough small incidents to qualify as having a history.  So, unless he did anything particularly wrong in this instance, he shouldn't be penalized.  But it would be fun to watch him start from the back.  In fact, let's get rid of qualifying entirely and have the grid set randomly.  That be awesome.  Then we should arm them all with lances.  Hellz yeah.  

As for Pedrosa's claim that Marquez is always riding in the limit, THAT'S THE POINT OF RACING, YOU make the beast with two backsIN' PUSSY!!

[Raux]

I don't see a penalty being warranted from this instance. This is racing...the point is to win. No one wins without riding on the edge. It would be a non-issue if HRC had protected that cable, or programmed their ecu differently.

or if pedrospeedbumpassa could go faster

[Triple J]

or if pedrospeedbumpassa could go faster

Maybe. The 'bot did pass MM a short while before. It is possible that he was faster than MM in some corners, and slower in others. That is very common. It's pretty rare someone is faster everywhere.

That said, MM was going to get him eventually...from sheer will if nothing else.

[triangleforge]

Rossi's suggestion at least made me smile:

"I was behind, but even if I saw it, I think Marquez should be penalized for two or three seasons, so it would be easier," Rossi said, with a laugh.

[Jester]

Pedro has a point in a way.  MM crosses the limit more often than most riders, but has gotten away with it so far.  He has narrowly avoided some rear end torpedoes and luckily eats all his crashes in practice.  Ask Casey about that style.  You are either the unbeatable God of racing with that style or you go home.  Its great for the series and us fans, but I'm sure there will be some head scratching crashes/incidents during the years to come.